From rgaskin at wdt.net Fri Apr 4 10:28:57 2008 From: rgaskin at wdt.net (Rick Gaskin) Date: Fri Apr 4 10:30:16 2008 Subject: OT - FTP & Firewalls etc Message-ID: <47F64939.4030506@wdt.net> We have an FTP site - setup for one of our major clients - to receive ad proofs. The system works great yadda yadda. The problem is that the person who normally access's the FTP site from the client side will be out of the office and working from home for a couple of weeks. She does not have static IP at home and we have a firewall. Any attempts to set her up so that she can access from home have failed (her IP address keeps changing) Is there an alternative..besides emailing the ads??? -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message may be legally privileged and/or confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). No addressee should forward, print, copy, or otherwise reproduce this message in any manner that would allow it to be viewed by any individual not originally listed as a recipient. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized disclosure, dissemination, distribution, copying or the taking of any action in reliance on the information herein is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete this message. Thank you. From dave.balderstone at producer.com Fri Apr 4 10:37:51 2008 From: dave.balderstone at producer.com (Dave Balderstone) Date: Fri Apr 4 10:39:26 2008 Subject: OT - FTP & Firewalls etc In-Reply-To: <47F64939.4030506@wdt.net> References: <47F64939.4030506@wdt.net> Message-ID: <28499CD2-BB3C-4382-9C54-327365817D6C@producer.com> What about setting up a VPN? On 4-Apr-08, at 9:28 AM, Rick Gaskin wrote: > We have an FTP site - setup for one of our major clients - to > receive ad proofs. The system works great yadda yadda. > > The problem is that the person who normally access's the FTP site > from the client side will be out of the office and working from home > for a couple of weeks. > > She does not have static IP at home and we have a firewall. Any > attempts to set her up so that she can access from home have failed > (her IP address keeps changing) > > Is there an alternative..besides emailing the ads??? From smills at multi-ad.com Fri Apr 4 10:38:47 2008 From: smills at multi-ad.com (Steve Mills) Date: Fri Apr 4 10:41:15 2008 Subject: OT - FTP & Firewalls etc In-Reply-To: <47F64939.4030506@wdt.net> References: <47F64939.4030506@wdt.net> Message-ID: On Apr 4, 2008, at 10:28:57, Rick Gaskin wrote: > We have an FTP site - setup for one of our major clients - to > receive ad proofs. The system works great yadda yadda. > > The problem is that the person who normally access's the FTP site > from the client side will be out of the office and working from home > for a couple of weeks. > > She does not have static IP at home and we have a firewall. Any > attempts to set her up so that she can access from home have failed > (her IP address keeps changing) > > Is there an alternative..besides emailing the ads??? Does anybody there have a .Mac account on which the files could be stored during the interim? _________________________________________________________ Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 Senior Software Architect MultiAd smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com From rgaskin at wdt.net Fri Apr 4 10:45:26 2008 From: rgaskin at wdt.net (Rick Gaskin) Date: Fri Apr 4 10:50:33 2008 Subject: OT - FTP & Firewalls etc In-Reply-To: <28499CD2-BB3C-4382-9C54-327365817D6C@producer.com> References: <47F64939.4030506@wdt.net> <28499CD2-BB3C-4382-9C54-327365817D6C@producer.com> Message-ID: <47F64D16.2010303@wdt.net> How would I set it up..give me the basics of VPN setup I am not a networking guy Dave Balderstone wrote: > What about setting up a VPN? > > On 4-Apr-08, at 9:28 AM, Rick Gaskin wrote: >> We have an FTP site - setup for one of our major clients - to receive >> ad proofs. The system works great yadda yadda. >> >> The problem is that the person who normally access's the FTP site >> from the client side will be out of the office and working from home >> for a couple of weeks. >> >> She does not have static IP at home and we have a firewall. Any >> attempts to set her up so that she can access from home have failed >> (her IP address keeps changing) >> >> Is there an alternative..besides emailing the ads??? > > > _______________________________________________ > Creator mailing list > Creator@wacondatrader.com > http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator > > To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ > > Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ > > Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com > > -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message may be legally privileged and/or confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). No addressee should forward, print, copy, or otherwise reproduce this message in any manner that would allow it to be viewed by any individual not originally listed as a recipient. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized disclosure, dissemination, distribution, copying or the taking of any action in reliance on the information herein is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete this message. Thank you. From jschmidt at multi-ad.com Fri Apr 4 11:22:48 2008 From: jschmidt at multi-ad.com (Jeffrey Schmidt) Date: Fri Apr 4 11:30:24 2008 Subject: OT - FTP & Firewalls etc In-Reply-To: References: <47F64939.4030506@wdt.net> Message-ID: <806748b90804040922y6cc71116s653429fb9f2f4b2f@mail.gmail.com> If it helps your firewall to match users to a domain name, DynDNS might be worth trying: http://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/dyndns/ Ideally you'd use a VPN, or if you have someone wise in the ways of SSH tunneling, that can work too. Of course if you can use SSH, you should also be using sftp instead of ftp. -- Jeffrey Schmidt, senior software architect MultiAd(R) Creator and Creator Server jschmidt@multiad.com From joe at wacondatrader.com Mon Apr 7 09:52:12 2008 From: joe at wacondatrader.com (Joe Sporleder) Date: Mon Apr 7 09:52:22 2008 Subject: Exception thrown? Message-ID: <1975078D-6D9D-4E91-B09F-358C0A8A54DE@wacondatrader.com> I've got a particular Creator file that when occasionally being saved to my file server I'll get an error message that says "Exception thrown while writing to file", but then a few moments later, will go ahead and save OK. I am saving to a MacOS X 10.4.11 Server and my computer is a MacBook Pro running the client version of the same MacOS X. Suppose that file has some corruption or something? Joe From smills at multi-ad.com Mon Apr 7 10:07:00 2008 From: smills at multi-ad.com (Steve Mills) Date: Mon Apr 7 10:07:26 2008 Subject: Exception thrown? In-Reply-To: <1975078D-6D9D-4E91-B09F-358C0A8A54DE@wacondatrader.com> References: <1975078D-6D9D-4E91-B09F-358C0A8A54DE@wacondatrader.com> Message-ID: <5333C8F1-100F-46DA-8AAD-41F61F92B97A@multiad.com> On Apr 7, 2008, at 09:52:12, Joe Sporleder wrote: > I've got a particular Creator file that when occasionally being > saved to my file server I'll get an error message that says > "Exception thrown while writing to file", but then a few moments > later, will go ahead and save OK. I am saving to a MacOS X 10.4.11 > Server and my computer is a MacBook Pro running the client version > of the same MacOS X. Suppose that file has some corruption or > something? We *might* be able to find out where the exception is being thrown if you're running 8.0.2. When you launch Creator, hold down the d and b keys until the splash screen goes away. That will put the Debug menu into the menubar. Choose Log Exceptions from it, then go about your business. (You'll need to do this every time you launch Creator.) The next time you get the error, go ahead and save again so you don't lose your work, then quit Creator and send me the file: ~/Library/Application Support/MultiAd/exceptions.log I think that's the file name. _________________________________________________________ Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 Senior Software Architect MultiAd smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com From joe at wacondatrader.com Mon Apr 7 10:41:16 2008 From: joe at wacondatrader.com (Joe Sporleder) Date: Mon Apr 7 10:42:01 2008 Subject: Exception thrown? In-Reply-To: <5333C8F1-100F-46DA-8AAD-41F61F92B97A@multiad.com> References: <1975078D-6D9D-4E91-B09F-358C0A8A54DE@wacondatrader.com> <5333C8F1-100F-46DA-8AAD-41F61F92B97A@multiad.com> Message-ID: Hmmmm . . . I suppose it is a good sign, but since relaunching Creator and following your instructions to turn on debugging, I haven't had the problem! :-) Joe On Apr 7, 2008, at 10:07 AM, Steve Mills wrote: > On Apr 7, 2008, at 09:52:12, Joe Sporleder wrote: > >> I've got a particular Creator file that when occasionally being >> saved to my file server I'll get an error message that says >> "Exception thrown while writing to file", but then a few moments >> later, will go ahead and save OK. I am saving to a MacOS X 10.4.11 >> Server and my computer is a MacBook Pro running the client version >> of the same MacOS X. Suppose that file has some corruption or >> something? > > > We *might* be able to find out where the exception is being thrown > if you're running 8.0.2. When you launch Creator, hold down the d > and b keys until the splash screen goes away. That will put the > Debug menu into the menubar. Choose Log Exceptions from it, then go > about your business. (You'll need to do this every time you launch > Creator.) The next time you get the error, go ahead and save again > so you don't lose your work, then quit Creator and send me the file: > > ~/Library/Application Support/MultiAd/exceptions.log > > I think that's the file name. From smills at multi-ad.com Mon Apr 7 10:46:35 2008 From: smills at multi-ad.com (Steve Mills) Date: Mon Apr 7 10:53:26 2008 Subject: Exception thrown? In-Reply-To: References: <1975078D-6D9D-4E91-B09F-358C0A8A54DE@wacondatrader.com> <5333C8F1-100F-46DA-8AAD-41F61F92B97A@multiad.com> Message-ID: On Apr 7, 2008, at 10:41:16, Joe Sporleder wrote: > Hmmmm . . . I suppose it is a good sign, but since relaunching > Creator and following your instructions to turn on debugging, I > haven't had the problem! :-) Odd, but good! :) You might also check Console and see if anything strange shows up around the times you got the errors. _________________________________________________________ Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 Senior Software Architect MultiAd smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com From cliff at thenowacks.com Mon Apr 7 12:42:15 2008 From: cliff at thenowacks.com (Cliff Nowack) Date: Mon Apr 7 12:42:52 2008 Subject: PDFs and OPI Message-ID: <8DC5BC9D-91B7-45C0-A90C-443ADB64AE27@thenowacks.com> We are having an issue with placed Xinet OPI LoRes (FPO) PDFs in Creator. If an FPO of the PDF is placed in the Creator document and the document is saved and opened later Creator says it can't find the placed image. Navigating to the image finds it where it is supposed to be and the image then appears in the ad. I found an archived message from September 2005 about the same issue, but I couldn't find a response. This is happening in Creator 7 and 8 on both OS9 and OSX. Thanks, Cliff From smills at multi-ad.com Mon Apr 7 12:50:56 2008 From: smills at multi-ad.com (Steve Mills) Date: Mon Apr 7 12:51:10 2008 Subject: PDFs and OPI In-Reply-To: <8DC5BC9D-91B7-45C0-A90C-443ADB64AE27@thenowacks.com> References: <8DC5BC9D-91B7-45C0-A90C-443ADB64AE27@thenowacks.com> Message-ID: <8A11DDD5-42C2-4817-8DB3-CCB8A5E2E153@multiad.com> On Apr 7, 2008, at 12:42:15, Cliff Nowack wrote: > We are having an issue with placed Xinet OPI LoRes (FPO) PDFs in > Creator. > > If an FPO For Placement Only? > of the PDF is placed in the Creator document and the document is > saved and opened later Creator says it can't find the placed image. > Navigating to the image finds it where it is supposed to be and the > image then appears in the ad. Does the Xinet software regenerate this pdf upon request or something like that? _________________________________________________________ Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 Senior Software Architect MultiAd smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com From cliff at thenowacks.com Mon Apr 7 13:04:09 2008 From: cliff at thenowacks.com (Cliff Nowack) Date: Mon Apr 7 13:04:33 2008 Subject: PDFs and OPI In-Reply-To: <8A11DDD5-42C2-4817-8DB3-CCB8A5E2E153@multiad.com> References: <8DC5BC9D-91B7-45C0-A90C-443ADB64AE27@thenowacks.com> <8A11DDD5-42C2-4817-8DB3-CCB8A5E2E153@multiad.com> Message-ID: <972B51ED-0035-4BE2-B22B-F1EBA78E7901@thenowacks.com> No, the FPO exists as long as the original exists. When a graphic is placed in the HiRes repository, a LoRes is generated on another volume. The LoRes is basically just a thumbnail that contains a resource with the path to the HiRes. When the composer places the LoRes in the ad, it looks just like the original, but is really small, like 12k. When the ad is imaged, the OPI system swaps in the HiRes into the ad on a machine that is connected more directly to the HiRes repository, significantly reducing network traffic. We have used this system for years with EPS files and have only recently been getting ads containing PDFs. Cliff On Apr 7, 2008, at 10:50 AM, Steve Mills wrote: > On Apr 7, 2008, at 12:42:15, Cliff Nowack wrote: > >> We are having an issue with placed Xinet OPI LoRes (FPO) PDFs in >> Creator. >> >> If an FPO > > For Placement Only? > >> of the PDF is placed in the Creator document and the document is >> saved and opened later Creator says it can't find the placed image. >> Navigating to the image finds it where it is supposed to be and the >> image then appears in the ad. > > > Does the Xinet software regenerate this pdf upon request or > something like that? > > _________________________________________________________ > Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 > Senior Software Architect MultiAd > smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Creator mailing list > Creator@wacondatrader.com > http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator > > To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ > > Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ > > Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com From smills at multi-ad.com Mon Apr 7 13:15:33 2008 From: smills at multi-ad.com (Steve Mills) Date: Mon Apr 7 13:15:48 2008 Subject: PDFs and OPI In-Reply-To: <972B51ED-0035-4BE2-B22B-F1EBA78E7901@thenowacks.com> References: <8DC5BC9D-91B7-45C0-A90C-443ADB64AE27@thenowacks.com> <8A11DDD5-42C2-4817-8DB3-CCB8A5E2E153@multiad.com> <972B51ED-0035-4BE2-B22B-F1EBA78E7901@thenowacks.com> Message-ID: On Apr 7, 2008, at 13:04:09, Cliff Nowack wrote: > No, the FPO exists as long as the original exists. When a graphic is > placed in the HiRes repository, a LoRes is generated on another > volume. The LoRes is basically just a thumbnail that contains a > resource with the path to the HiRes. When the composer places the > LoRes in the ad, it looks just like the original, but is really > small, like 12k. When the ad is imaged, the OPI system swaps in the > HiRes into the ad on a machine that is connected more directly to > the HiRes repository, significantly reducing network traffic. What happens if you turn on the "Be more compatible with Windows servers when opening documents" pref? Does that help or not? _________________________________________________________ Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 Senior Software Architect MultiAd smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com From cliff at thenowacks.com Mon Apr 7 13:26:57 2008 From: cliff at thenowacks.com (Cliff Nowack) Date: Mon Apr 7 13:27:43 2008 Subject: PDFs and OPI In-Reply-To: References: <8DC5BC9D-91B7-45C0-A90C-443ADB64AE27@thenowacks.com> <8A11DDD5-42C2-4817-8DB3-CCB8A5E2E153@multiad.com> <972B51ED-0035-4BE2-B22B-F1EBA78E7901@thenowacks.com> Message-ID: <002F1FB1-820F-401E-9C0C-84C47540665B@thenowacks.com> We always make sure to have that turned on, I double checked and it is. Cliff On Apr 7, 2008, at 11:15 AM, Steve Mills wrote: > On Apr 7, 2008, at 13:04:09, Cliff Nowack wrote: > >> No, the FPO exists as long as the original exists. When a graphic >> is placed in the HiRes repository, a LoRes is generated on another >> volume. The LoRes is basically just a thumbnail that contains a >> resource with the path to the HiRes. When the composer places the >> LoRes in the ad, it looks just like the original, but is really >> small, like 12k. When the ad is imaged, the OPI system swaps in the >> HiRes into the ad on a machine that is connected more directly to >> the HiRes repository, significantly reducing network traffic. > > What happens if you turn on the "Be more compatible with Windows > servers when opening documents" pref? Does that help or not? > > _________________________________________________________ > Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 > Senior Software Architect MultiAd > smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Creator mailing list > Creator@wacondatrader.com > http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator > > To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ > > Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ > > Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com From aaron at monroenews.com Mon Apr 7 13:48:18 2008 From: aaron at monroenews.com (Aaron Stoianowski) Date: Mon Apr 7 13:48:40 2008 Subject: PDFs and OPI In-Reply-To: <002F1FB1-820F-401E-9C0C-84C47540665B@thenowacks.com> References: <8DC5BC9D-91B7-45C0-A90C-443ADB64AE27@thenowacks.com><8A11DDD5-42C2-4817-8DB3-CCB8A5E2E153@multiad.com><972B51ED-0035-4BE2-B22B-F1EBA78E7901@thenowacks.com> <002F1FB1-820F-401E-9C0C-84C47540665B@thenowacks.com> Message-ID: <006b01c898df$f38619c0$4500a8c0@mpc.local> Please remove me from your email list. Thank you, Aaron J Stoianowski 734-240-5788 aaron@monroenews.com Systems Assistant Monroe Publishing Co. Monroe, MI 48161 -----Original Message----- From: creator-bounces@wacondatrader.com [mailto:creator-bounces@wacondatrader.com] On Behalf Of Cliff Nowack Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 2:27 PM To: creator@wacondatrader.com Subject: Re: PDFs and OPI We always make sure to have that turned on, I double checked and it is. Cliff On Apr 7, 2008, at 11:15 AM, Steve Mills wrote: > On Apr 7, 2008, at 13:04:09, Cliff Nowack wrote: > >> No, the FPO exists as long as the original exists. When a graphic >> is placed in the HiRes repository, a LoRes is generated on another >> volume. The LoRes is basically just a thumbnail that contains a >> resource with the path to the HiRes. When the composer places the >> LoRes in the ad, it looks just like the original, but is really >> small, like 12k. When the ad is imaged, the OPI system swaps in the >> HiRes into the ad on a machine that is connected more directly to >> the HiRes repository, significantly reducing network traffic. > > What happens if you turn on the "Be more compatible with Windows > servers when opening documents" pref? Does that help or not? > > _________________________________________________________ > Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 > Senior Software Architect MultiAd > smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Creator mailing list > Creator@wacondatrader.com > http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator > > To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ > > Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ > > Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com _______________________________________________ Creator mailing list Creator@wacondatrader.com http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: http://www.creatorsoftware.com From joe at wacondatrader.com Mon Apr 7 13:51:59 2008 From: joe at wacondatrader.com (Joe Sporleder) Date: Mon Apr 7 13:52:28 2008 Subject: How to leave mailing list In-Reply-To: <006b01c898df$f38619c0$4500a8c0@mpc.local> References: <8DC5BC9D-91B7-45C0-A90C-443ADB64AE27@thenowacks.com><8A11DDD5-42C2-4817-8DB3-CCB8A5E2E153@multiad.com><972B51ED-0035-4BE2-B22B-F1EBA78E7901@thenowacks.com> <002F1FB1-820F-401E-9C0C-84C47540665B@thenowacks.com> <006b01c898df$f38619c0$4500a8c0@mpc.local> Message-ID: <24E0BAFD-8900-45E5-84C0-430D1660813B@wacondatrader.com> Try the address first at the bottom of every email. Joe On Apr 7, 2008, at 1:48 PM, Aaron Stoianowski wrote: >> http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator From smills at multi-ad.com Mon Apr 7 14:01:01 2008 From: smills at multi-ad.com (Steve Mills) Date: Mon Apr 7 14:01:13 2008 Subject: PDFs and OPI In-Reply-To: <8DC5BC9D-91B7-45C0-A90C-443ADB64AE27@thenowacks.com> References: <8DC5BC9D-91B7-45C0-A90C-443ADB64AE27@thenowacks.com> Message-ID: <43EE5BC7-7702-4585-A446-F9D1CDD1B4E5@multiad.com> Well, let's see if we can get some info another way. Quit and launch Creator 8.0.x and hold down the d and b keys until the splash screen goes away. This will put the Debug menu into the menubar. Choose Log File I/O AND Log Exceptions. Now try to make the problem occur. When it does, quit and send me the 2 files in ~/Library/Application Support/ MultiAd/: fileio.log exceptions.log And tell me the name of the FPO pdf that Creator could not find. _________________________________________________________ Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 Senior Software Architect MultiAd smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com From joe at wacondatrader.com Mon Apr 7 14:10:35 2008 From: joe at wacondatrader.com (Joe Sporleder) Date: Mon Apr 7 14:10:45 2008 Subject: Exception thrown? In-Reply-To: <5333C8F1-100F-46DA-8AAD-41F61F92B97A@multiad.com> References: <1975078D-6D9D-4E91-B09F-358C0A8A54DE@wacondatrader.com> <5333C8F1-100F-46DA-8AAD-41F61F92B97A@multiad.com> Message-ID: <4B0DBB9B-EBF3-46B6-B85C-4065367EE028@wacondatrader.com> Steve, I followed your instructions (I'm running 8.0.2), and was able to get another file with the "Exception thrown" error, but I could never find the exceptions.log. I even searched for .log on my hard drive and sorted the results by date and still nothing. Joe On Apr 7, 2008, at 10:07 AM, Steve Mills wrote: > On Apr 7, 2008, at 09:52:12, Joe Sporleder wrote: > >> I've got a particular Creator file that when occasionally being >> saved to my file server I'll get an error message that says >> "Exception thrown while writing to file", but then a few moments >> later, will go ahead and save OK. I am saving to a MacOS X 10.4.11 >> Server and my computer is a MacBook Pro running the client version >> of the same MacOS X. Suppose that file has some corruption or >> something? > > > We *might* be able to find out where the exception is being thrown > if you're running 8.0.2. When you launch Creator, hold down the d > and b keys until the splash screen goes away. That will put the > Debug menu into the menubar. Choose Log Exceptions from it, then go > about your business. (You'll need to do this every time you launch > Creator.) The next time you get the error, go ahead and save again > so you don't lose your work, then quit Creator and send me the file: > > ~/Library/Application Support/MultiAd/exceptions.log > > I think that's the file name. From joe at wacondatrader.com Mon Apr 7 14:12:33 2008 From: joe at wacondatrader.com (Joe Sporleder) Date: Mon Apr 7 14:12:45 2008 Subject: Exception thrown? In-Reply-To: <4B0DBB9B-EBF3-46B6-B85C-4065367EE028@wacondatrader.com> References: <1975078D-6D9D-4E91-B09F-358C0A8A54DE@wacondatrader.com> <5333C8F1-100F-46DA-8AAD-41F61F92B97A@multiad.com> <4B0DBB9B-EBF3-46B6-B85C-4065367EE028@wacondatrader.com> Message-ID: <7B9CA527-F2C6-4C71-813B-8341C0E0E6A0@wacondatrader.com> Oh, and before you ask, I was in DeBug mode (the little bug between the applescript and help menu), and I did quit after I saved my document. :-) Joe On Apr 7, 2008, at 2:10 PM, Joe Sporleder wrote: > Steve, > > I followed your instructions (I'm running 8.0.2), and was able to > get another file with the "Exception thrown" error, but I could > never find the exceptions.log. I even searched for .log on my hard > drive and sorted the results by date and still nothing. > > Joe > > On Apr 7, 2008, at 10:07 AM, Steve Mills wrote: >> On Apr 7, 2008, at 09:52:12, Joe Sporleder wrote: >> >>> I've got a particular Creator file that when occasionally being >>> saved to my file server I'll get an error message that says >>> "Exception thrown while writing to file", but then a few moments >>> later, will go ahead and save OK. I am saving to a MacOS X >>> 10.4.11 Server and my computer is a MacBook Pro running the >>> client version of the same MacOS X. Suppose that file has some >>> corruption or something? >> >> >> We *might* be able to find out where the exception is being thrown >> if you're running 8.0.2. When you launch Creator, hold down the d >> and b keys until the splash screen goes away. That will put the >> Debug menu into the menubar. Choose Log Exceptions from it, then >> go about your business. (You'll need to do this every time you >> launch Creator.) The next time you get the error, go ahead and >> save again so you don't lose your work, then quit Creator and send >> me the file: >> >> ~/Library/Application Support/MultiAd/exceptions.log >> >> I think that's the file name. From cliff at thenowacks.com Mon Apr 7 14:19:37 2008 From: cliff at thenowacks.com (Cliff Nowack) Date: Mon Apr 7 14:20:17 2008 Subject: PDFs and OPI In-Reply-To: <43EE5BC7-7702-4585-A446-F9D1CDD1B4E5@multiad.com> References: <8DC5BC9D-91B7-45C0-A90C-443ADB64AE27@thenowacks.com> <43EE5BC7-7702-4585-A446-F9D1CDD1B4E5@multiad.com> Message-ID: I followed the instructions, but there was no exceptions.log. I have attached the fileio.log. -------------- next part -------------- Thanks, Cliff On Apr 7, 2008, at 12:01 PM, Steve Mills wrote: > Well, let's see if we can get some info another way. Quit and launch > Creator 8.0.x and hold down the d and b keys until the splash screen > goes away. This will put the Debug menu into the menubar. Choose Log > File I/O AND Log Exceptions. Now try to make the problem occur. When > it does, quit and send me the 2 files in ~/Library/Application > Support/MultiAd/: > > fileio.log > exceptions.log > > And tell me the name of the FPO pdf that Creator could not find. > > _________________________________________________________ > Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 > Senior Software Architect MultiAd > smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Creator mailing list > Creator@wacondatrader.com > http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator > > To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ > > Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ > > Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com From joe at wacondatrader.com Mon Apr 7 14:23:14 2008 From: joe at wacondatrader.com (Joe Sporleder) Date: Mon Apr 7 14:23:26 2008 Subject: PDFs and OPI In-Reply-To: References: <8DC5BC9D-91B7-45C0-A90C-443ADB64AE27@thenowacks.com> <43EE5BC7-7702-4585-A446-F9D1CDD1B4E5@multiad.com> Message-ID: I think we are supposed to take exception on where Steve tells the exceptions.log file is supposed to be! :-) Joe On Apr 7, 2008, at 2:19 PM, Cliff Nowack wrote: > I followed the instructions, but there was no exceptions.log. I > have attached the fileio.log. > > > > > Thanks, Cliff > > On Apr 7, 2008, at 12:01 PM, Steve Mills wrote: > >> Well, let's see if we can get some info another way. Quit and >> launch Creator 8.0.x and hold down the d and b keys until the >> splash screen goes away. This will put the Debug menu into the >> menubar. Choose Log File I/O AND Log Exceptions. Now try to make >> the problem occur. When it does, quit and send me the 2 files in ~/ >> Library/Application Support/MultiAd/: >> >> fileio.log >> exceptions.log >> >> And tell me the name of the FPO pdf that Creator could not find. From smills at multi-ad.com Mon Apr 7 14:23:32 2008 From: smills at multi-ad.com (Steve Mills) Date: Mon Apr 7 14:24:11 2008 Subject: Exception thrown? In-Reply-To: <7B9CA527-F2C6-4C71-813B-8341C0E0E6A0@wacondatrader.com> References: <1975078D-6D9D-4E91-B09F-358C0A8A54DE@wacondatrader.com> <5333C8F1-100F-46DA-8AAD-41F61F92B97A@multiad.com> <4B0DBB9B-EBF3-46B6-B85C-4065367EE028@wacondatrader.com> <7B9CA527-F2C6-4C71-813B-8341C0E0E6A0@wacondatrader.com> Message-ID: <0F2527CE-4CA1-4536-B8C0-6ECE5C7C86C7@multiad.com> On Apr 7, 2008, at 14:12:33, Joe Sporleder wrote: > Oh, and before you ask, I was in DeBug mode (the little bug between > the applescript and help menu), and I did quit after I saved my > document. :-) And you *did* make sure the Log Exceptions menu item was checked in that menu? If you didn't get a log in that folder, then the exception was thrown by a mechanism other than Creator's own exception handler, so it won't generate log output. If that's the case, then I supposed you could try the next step, which would be to turn on Log File I/O in that same menu. I might at least be able to see how far the save action got before the exception gets thrown. That will generate the fileio.log file in the same location. _________________________________________________________ Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 Senior Software Architect MultiAd smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com From smills at multi-ad.com Mon Apr 7 14:23:58 2008 From: smills at multi-ad.com (Steve Mills) Date: Mon Apr 7 14:24:33 2008 Subject: PDFs and OPI In-Reply-To: References: <8DC5BC9D-91B7-45C0-A90C-443ADB64AE27@thenowacks.com> <43EE5BC7-7702-4585-A446-F9D1CDD1B4E5@multiad.com> Message-ID: <8783E9CA-5624-4AD9-AE12-6A7E87DA4E7F@multiad.com> On Apr 7, 2008, at 14:19:37, Cliff Nowack wrote: > I followed the instructions, but there was no exceptions.log. I have > attached the fileio.log. No attachments get through the list - send it directly to me. _________________________________________________________ Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 Senior Software Architect MultiAd smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com From joe at wacondatrader.com Mon Apr 7 14:25:01 2008 From: joe at wacondatrader.com (Joe Sporleder) Date: Mon Apr 7 14:26:20 2008 Subject: Exception thrown? In-Reply-To: References: <1975078D-6D9D-4E91-B09F-358C0A8A54DE@wacondatrader.com> <5333C8F1-100F-46DA-8AAD-41F61F92B97A@multiad.com> Message-ID: Steve, I've been visiting with co-workers and I'm not the only one that has seen the exception thrown error. I'm guessing there is a permission problem somewhere on the server, which I have a process to fix. Joe On Apr 7, 2008, at 10:46 AM, Steve Mills wrote: > On Apr 7, 2008, at 10:41:16, Joe Sporleder wrote: > >> Hmmmm . . . I suppose it is a good sign, but since relaunching >> Creator and following your instructions to turn on debugging, I >> haven't had the problem! :-) > > > Odd, but good! :) You might also check Console and see if anything > strange shows up around the times you got the errors. From smills at multi-ad.com Mon Apr 7 14:29:34 2008 From: smills at multi-ad.com (Steve Mills) Date: Mon Apr 7 14:31:06 2008 Subject: Exception thrown? In-Reply-To: References: <1975078D-6D9D-4E91-B09F-358C0A8A54DE@wacondatrader.com> <5333C8F1-100F-46DA-8AAD-41F61F92B97A@multiad.com> Message-ID: <0F2629FB-8F9F-4800-A20E-A425A8856D12@multiad.com> On Apr 7, 2008, at 14:25:01, Joe Sporleder wrote: > I've been visiting with co-workers and I'm not the only one that has > seen the exception thrown error. I'm guessing there is a permission > problem somewhere on the server, which I have a process to fix. OK. If possible, I'd like to know what the problem ends up being so I can possibly get Creator to generate a more meaningful error message. _________________________________________________________ Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 Senior Software Architect MultiAd smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com From joe at wacondatrader.com Tue Apr 8 08:20:25 2008 From: joe at wacondatrader.com (Joe Sporleder) Date: Tue Apr 8 08:20:43 2008 Subject: Exception thrown? In-Reply-To: <0F2629FB-8F9F-4800-A20E-A425A8856D12@multiad.com> References: <1975078D-6D9D-4E91-B09F-358C0A8A54DE@wacondatrader.com> <5333C8F1-100F-46DA-8AAD-41F61F92B97A@multiad.com> <0F2629FB-8F9F-4800-A20E-A425A8856D12@multiad.com> Message-ID: Steve, I went to the server and Workgroup Manager and re-propagated the access privileges for the volume where the ads are stored. Also, in the same message box about the "exception thrown" it also gave me date information on when the file was last opened (almost like the file was temporarily locked). Anyways, after fixing the access privileges, the problem has gone away. It seems after every 4 to 5 backups of my MacOS X Server, access privileges/permissions get out of whack. Joe On Apr 7, 2008, at 2:29 PM, Steve Mills wrote: > On Apr 7, 2008, at 14:25:01, Joe Sporleder wrote: > >> I've been visiting with co-workers and I'm not the only one that >> has seen the exception thrown error. I'm guessing there is a >> permission problem somewhere on the server, which I have a process >> to fix. > > > OK. If possible, I'd like to know what the problem ends up being so > I can possibly get Creator to generate a more meaningful error > message. From john.george at lipennysaver.com Tue Apr 8 08:21:57 2008 From: john.george at lipennysaver.com (John George) Date: Tue Apr 8 08:27:03 2008 Subject: PDFs and OPI Message-ID: <43622.192.168.1.70.1207660917.webmail@192.168.1.70> Hi, not sure if this helps but we had OPI in my last place and we used creator as well -- it drove us nuts! When exporting as eps, there are some opi options and when printing choose multi-ad creator options and there should be options to send opi, substitute opi or omit postscript. We noticed that using the 'omit postscript for bitmap' option makes creator embed the entire TIF lo-res which has opi comments embedded in it. So when the file hits the opi queue, it knows what to do. We were using Helios so it's references started with %%HEL and %%ALD within the proxy image. -John John George IT Manager All Island Media john.george@lipennysaver.com (631) 698-8400 ext. 245 -----Original Message----- From: Cliff Nowack Sent: Monday, April 7, 2008 2:26pm To: creator@wacondatrader.com Subject: Re: PDFs and OPI We always make sure to have that turned on, I double checked and it is. Cliff On Apr 7, 2008, at 11:15 AM, Steve Mills wrote: > On Apr 7, 2008, at 13:04:09, Cliff Nowack wrote: > >> No, the FPO exists as long as the original exists. When a graphic >> is placed in the HiRes repository, a LoRes is generated on another >> volume. The LoRes is basically just a thumbnail that contains a >> resource with the path to the HiRes. When the composer places the >> LoRes in the ad, it looks just like the original, but is really >> small, like 12k. When the ad is imaged, the OPI system swaps in the >> HiRes into the ad on a machine that is connected more directly to >> the HiRes repository, significantly reducing network traffic. > > What happens if you turn on the "Be more compatible with Windows > servers when opening documents" pref? Does that help or not? > > _________________________________________________________ > Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 > Senior Software Architect MultiAd > smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Creator mailing list > Creator@wacondatrader.com > http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator > > To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ > > Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ > > Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com _______________________________________________ Creator mailing list Creator@wacondatrader.com http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: http://www.creatorsoftware.com From smills at multi-ad.com Tue Apr 8 08:35:32 2008 From: smills at multi-ad.com (Steve Mills) Date: Tue Apr 8 08:37:13 2008 Subject: Exception thrown? In-Reply-To: References: <1975078D-6D9D-4E91-B09F-358C0A8A54DE@wacondatrader.com> <5333C8F1-100F-46DA-8AAD-41F61F92B97A@multiad.com> <0F2629FB-8F9F-4800-A20E-A425A8856D12@multiad.com> Message-ID: <5251E387-2362-4FBE-9807-CFCB3F814CEE@multiad.com> On Apr 8, 2008, at 08:20:25, Joe Sporleder wrote: > I went to the server and Workgroup Manager and re-propagated the > access privileges for the volume where the ads are stored. Also, in > the same message box about the "exception thrown" it also gave me > date information on when the file was last opened (almost like the > file was temporarily locked). Did it actually say "exception thrown" or are you using that as a generic "error occurred" equivalent? From what I recall, the message that tells you when/by who the file was last opened will not show up in the actual "exception" error dialog. An exception is geek speak for a certain way of handling errors or unexpected happenings, and the term "exception" should not be used in place of "error", otherwise the developer will be confused and follow the wrong debugging path. > Anyways, after fixing the access privileges, the problem has gone > away. It seems after every 4 to 5 backups of my MacOS X Server, > access privileges/permissions get out of whack. You mean the act of backing up changes source privs? That should not be so. Backup should be read-only on the source volume. _________________________________________________________ Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 Senior Software Architect MultiAd smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com From joe at wacondatrader.com Tue Apr 8 08:46:40 2008 From: joe at wacondatrader.com (Joe Sporleder) Date: Tue Apr 8 08:46:57 2008 Subject: Exception thrown? In-Reply-To: <5251E387-2362-4FBE-9807-CFCB3F814CEE@multiad.com> References: <1975078D-6D9D-4E91-B09F-358C0A8A54DE@wacondatrader.com> <5333C8F1-100F-46DA-8AAD-41F61F92B97A@multiad.com> <0F2629FB-8F9F-4800-A20E-A425A8856D12@multiad.com> <5251E387-2362-4FBE-9807-CFCB3F814CEE@multiad.com> Message-ID: <799B2A59-A987-4BB3-8CBA-7977D0D47EA5@wacondatrader.com> Yes, it actually said "Exception Thrown". I remember, because that is unusual compared to the normal error occurred dialogue that I am used to. Joe On Apr 8, 2008, at 8:35 AM, Steve Mills wrote: > On Apr 8, 2008, at 08:20:25, Joe Sporleder wrote: > >> I went to the server and Workgroup Manager and re-propagated the >> access privileges for the volume where the ads are stored. Also, >> in the same message box about the "exception thrown" it also gave >> me date information on when the file was last opened (almost like >> the file was temporarily locked). > > Did it actually say "exception thrown" or are you using that as a > generic "error occurred" equivalent? From what I recall, the > message that tells you when/by who the file was last opened will > not show up in the actual "exception" error dialog. An exception is > geek speak for a certain way of handling errors or unexpected > happenings, and the term "exception" should not be used in place of > "error", otherwise the developer will be confused and follow the > wrong debugging path. > >> Anyways, after fixing the access privileges, the problem has gone >> away. It seems after every 4 to 5 backups of my MacOS X Server, >> access privileges/permissions get out of whack. > > You mean the act of backing up changes source privs? That should > not be so. Backup should be read-only on the source volume. From MGOLDEN at argusleader.com Tue Apr 8 08:55:46 2008 From: MGOLDEN at argusleader.com (Golden, Michael) Date: Tue Apr 8 08:56:12 2008 Subject: PDFs and OPI In-Reply-To: <002F1FB1-820F-401E-9C0C-84C47540665B@thenowacks.com> Message-ID: Cliff What version of Fullpress are you running? We could test here as well to see if the results are consistent. -- Michael Golden Information Technology Manager Argus Leader 200 So Minnesota Ave Sioux Falls, SD 57104 605 331-2258 On 4/7/08 1:26 PM, "Cliff Nowack" wrote: We always make sure to have that turned on, I double checked and it is. Cliff On Apr 7, 2008, at 11:15 AM, Steve Mills wrote: > On Apr 7, 2008, at 13:04:09, Cliff Nowack wrote: > >> No, the FPO exists as long as the original exists. When a graphic >> is placed in the HiRes repository, a LoRes is generated on another >> volume. The LoRes is basically just a thumbnail that contains a >> resource with the path to the HiRes. When the composer places the >> LoRes in the ad, it looks just like the original, but is really >> small, like 12k. When the ad is imaged, the OPI system swaps in the >> HiRes into the ad on a machine that is connected more directly to >> the HiRes repository, significantly reducing network traffic. > > What happens if you turn on the "Be more compatible with Windows > servers when opening documents" pref? Does that help or not? > > _________________________________________________________ > Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 > Senior Software Architect MultiAd > smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Creator mailing list > Creator@wacondatrader.com > http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator > > To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ > > Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ > > Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com _______________________________________________ Creator mailing list Creator@wacondatrader.com http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: http://www.creatorsoftware.com From smills at multi-ad.com Tue Apr 8 09:07:34 2008 From: smills at multi-ad.com (Steve Mills) Date: Tue Apr 8 09:08:03 2008 Subject: Exception thrown? In-Reply-To: <799B2A59-A987-4BB3-8CBA-7977D0D47EA5@wacondatrader.com> References: <1975078D-6D9D-4E91-B09F-358C0A8A54DE@wacondatrader.com> <5333C8F1-100F-46DA-8AAD-41F61F92B97A@multiad.com> <0F2629FB-8F9F-4800-A20E-A425A8856D12@multiad.com> <5251E387-2362-4FBE-9807-CFCB3F814CEE@multiad.com> <799B2A59-A987-4BB3-8CBA-7977D0D47EA5@wacondatrader.com> Message-ID: <9D613A82-9B1D-4897-968D-3506C1D69FD9@multiad.com> On Apr 8, 2008, at 08:46:40, Joe Sporleder wrote: > Yes, it actually said "Exception Thrown". I remember, because that > is unusual compared to the normal error occurred dialogue that I am > used to. Ah, I see. The file lock message now goes into the accumulated message dialog (which has a scrolling text area), so the exception message could be in there too. _________________________________________________________ Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 Senior Software Architect MultiAd smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com From cliff at thenowacks.com Tue Apr 8 10:09:03 2008 From: cliff at thenowacks.com (Cliff Nowack) Date: Tue Apr 8 10:09:48 2008 Subject: PDFs and OPI In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3169F3EB-45DE-4008-8E48-6EC9BB79D000@thenowacks.com> Our version of Fullpress is 15.0.3 Thanks, Cliff On Apr 8, 2008, at 6:55 AM, Golden, Michael wrote: > Cliff > > What version of Fullpress are you running? We could test here as > well to see if the results are consistent. > > > -- > > Michael Golden > Information Technology Manager > Argus Leader > 200 So Minnesota Ave > Sioux Falls, SD 57104 > 605 331-2258 > > > > On 4/7/08 1:26 PM, "Cliff Nowack" wrote: > > We always make sure to have that turned on, I double checked and it > is. > > Cliff > On Apr 7, 2008, at 11:15 AM, Steve Mills wrote: > >> On Apr 7, 2008, at 13:04:09, Cliff Nowack wrote: >> >>> No, the FPO exists as long as the original exists. When a graphic >>> is placed in the HiRes repository, a LoRes is generated on another >>> volume. The LoRes is basically just a thumbnail that contains a >>> resource with the path to the HiRes. When the composer places the >>> LoRes in the ad, it looks just like the original, but is really >>> small, like 12k. When the ad is imaged, the OPI system swaps in the >>> HiRes into the ad on a machine that is connected more directly to >>> the HiRes repository, significantly reducing network traffic. >> >> What happens if you turn on the "Be more compatible with Windows >> servers when opening documents" pref? Does that help or not? >> >> _________________________________________________________ >> Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 >> Senior Software Architect MultiAd >> smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Creator mailing list >> Creator@wacondatrader.com >> http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator >> >> To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: >> http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ >> >> Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ >> >> Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: >> http://www.creatorsoftware.com > > _______________________________________________ > Creator mailing list > Creator@wacondatrader.com > http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator > > To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ > > Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ > > Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Creator mailing list > Creator@wacondatrader.com > http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator > > To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ > > Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ > > Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com From aasmus at stcloudtimes.com Tue Apr 8 13:19:36 2008 From: aasmus at stcloudtimes.com (Anthony Asmus) Date: Tue Apr 8 13:20:17 2008 Subject: Shift Key In-Reply-To: <0F2629FB-8F9F-4800-A20E-A425A8856D12@multiad.com> References: <1975078D-6D9D-4E91-B09F-358C0A8A54DE@wacondatrader.com> <5333C8F1-100F-46DA-8AAD-41F61F92B97A@multiad.com> <0F2629FB-8F9F-4800-A20E-A425A8856D12@multiad.com> Message-ID: <000001c899a5$1d7d65b0$58783110$@com> A user in production "Shift" key isn't working with Multi-ad creator 8, it works fine in other applications like "Photoshop" , "OSX 10.4" for adding files, "Entourage" , but when in Creator 8 it doesn't work. I tried deleteing the "multiad.creator.plist" file and re-launch and that didn't fix it. What else could it be? User machine: Mac Pro 2.66 GHZ (Intel) OSX 10.4.11 Creator 8 Photoshop 7 Entourage 2004 From smills at multi-ad.com Tue Apr 8 13:34:06 2008 From: smills at multi-ad.com (Steve Mills) Date: Tue Apr 8 13:34:47 2008 Subject: Shift Key In-Reply-To: <000001c899a5$1d7d65b0$58783110$@com> References: <1975078D-6D9D-4E91-B09F-358C0A8A54DE@wacondatrader.com> <5333C8F1-100F-46DA-8AAD-41F61F92B97A@multiad.com> <0F2629FB-8F9F-4800-A20E-A425A8856D12@multiad.com> <000001c899a5$1d7d65b0$58783110$@com> Message-ID: On Apr 8, 2008, at 13:19:36, Anthony Asmus wrote: > A user in production "Shift" key isn't working with Multi-ad creator > 8, it > works fine in other applications like "Photoshop" , "OSX 10.4" for > adding > files, "Entourage" , but when in Creator 8 it doesn't work. I tried > deleteing the "multiad.creator.plist" file and re-launch and that > didn't fix > it. What else could it be? But what feature are you talking about? You said "for adding files", so do you mean in the Place Graphic dialog? Where exactly does the shift key not work? _________________________________________________________ Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 Senior Software Architect MultiAd smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com From aasmus at stcloudtimes.com Tue Apr 8 14:09:31 2008 From: aasmus at stcloudtimes.com (Anthony Asmus) Date: Tue Apr 8 14:10:15 2008 Subject: Shift Key In-Reply-To: References: <1975078D-6D9D-4E91-B09F-358C0A8A54DE@wacondatrader.com> <5333C8F1-100F-46DA-8AAD-41F61F92B97A@multiad.com> <0F2629FB-8F9F-4800-A20E-A425A8856D12@multiad.com> <000001c899a5$1d7d65b0$58783110$@com> Message-ID: <000101c899ac$130d6a10$39283e30$@com> When we are in finder and selecting multiple files is what I meant by that, the "Shift" key works in finder fine. It doesn't work in Multi-Ad Creator 8. Like trying to do a "fill texture" or "fill gradient" using the shortcut keys it doesn't work, but doing anything that's a shortcut in creator without needed the "Shift" key works fine. -----Original Message----- From: creator-bounces@wacondatrader.com [mailto:creator-bounces@wacondatrader.com] On Behalf Of Steve Mills Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 1:34 PM To: creator@wacondatrader.com Subject: Re: Shift Key On Apr 8, 2008, at 13:19:36, Anthony Asmus wrote: > A user in production "Shift" key isn't working with Multi-ad creator > 8, it > works fine in other applications like "Photoshop" , "OSX 10.4" for > adding > files, "Entourage" , but when in Creator 8 it doesn't work. I tried > deleteing the "multiad.creator.plist" file and re-launch and that > didn't fix > it. What else could it be? But what feature are you talking about? You said "for adding files", so do you mean in the Place Graphic dialog? Where exactly does the shift key not work? _________________________________________________________ Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 Senior Software Architect MultiAd smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com _______________________________________________ Creator mailing list Creator@wacondatrader.com http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: http://www.creatorsoftware.com From smills at multi-ad.com Tue Apr 8 14:26:12 2008 From: smills at multi-ad.com (Steve Mills) Date: Tue Apr 8 14:27:10 2008 Subject: Shift Key In-Reply-To: <000101c899ac$130d6a10$39283e30$@com> References: <1975078D-6D9D-4E91-B09F-358C0A8A54DE@wacondatrader.com> <5333C8F1-100F-46DA-8AAD-41F61F92B97A@multiad.com> <0F2629FB-8F9F-4800-A20E-A425A8856D12@multiad.com> <000001c899a5$1d7d65b0$58783110$@com> <000101c899ac$130d6a10$39283e30$@com> Message-ID: On Apr 8, 2008, at 14:09:31, Anthony Asmus wrote: > When we are in finder and selecting multiple files is what I meant > by that, > the "Shift" key works in finder fine. > It doesn't work in Multi-Ad Creator 8. Like trying to do a "fill > texture" or > "fill gradient" using the shortcut keys it doesn't work, but doing > anything > that's a shortcut in creator without needed the "Shift" key works > fine. That sounds familiar. Try quitting Excel or Entourage or whatever Microsoft apps you happen to be running. Those are so buggy that, amazingly, they break other apps. _________________________________________________________ Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 Senior Software Architect MultiAd smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com From prepress at lenconnect.com Tue Apr 8 16:17:39 2008 From: prepress at lenconnect.com (Telegram Prepress) Date: Tue Apr 8 16:18:26 2008 Subject: Shift Key In-Reply-To: <000001c899a5$1d7d65b0$58783110$@com> References: <1975078D-6D9D-4E91-B09F-358C0A8A54DE@wacondatrader.com> <5333C8F1-100F-46DA-8AAD-41F61F92B97A@multiad.com> <0F2629FB-8F9F-4800-A20E-A425A8856D12@multiad.com> <000001c899a5$1d7d65b0$58783110$@com> Message-ID: <8FDDE11A-8FCA-42FF-905F-CEC246E8E845@lenconnect.com> Based on Mac OSX, there was a change that took place in the way the multiple files were/are selected. Try the command key next to the spacebar. This works in OSX to select adjacent and nonadjacent files. Bruce _____________ Bruce Banks The Daily Telegram 517.265.5111 x273 ?It?s so much easier to suggest solutions when you don?t know too much about the problem.? MForbes On Apr 8, 2008, at 2:19 PM, Anthony Asmus wrote: > > A user in production "Shift" key isn't working with Multi-ad > creator 8, it > works fine in other applications like "Photoshop" , "OSX 10.4" for > adding > files, "Entourage" , but when in Creator 8 it doesn't work. I tried > deleteing the "multiad.creator.plist" file and re-launch and that > didn't fix > it. What else could it be? > > User machine: > Mac Pro 2.66 GHZ (Intel) > OSX 10.4.11 > Creator 8 > Photoshop 7 > Entourage 2004 > > > _______________________________________________ > Creator mailing list > Creator@wacondatrader.com > http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator > > To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ > > Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ > > Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com > From smills at multi-ad.com Tue Apr 8 16:21:51 2008 From: smills at multi-ad.com (Steve Mills) Date: Tue Apr 8 16:22:23 2008 Subject: Shift Key In-Reply-To: <8FDDE11A-8FCA-42FF-905F-CEC246E8E845@lenconnect.com> References: <1975078D-6D9D-4E91-B09F-358C0A8A54DE@wacondatrader.com> <5333C8F1-100F-46DA-8AAD-41F61F92B97A@multiad.com> <0F2629FB-8F9F-4800-A20E-A425A8856D12@multiad.com> <000001c899a5$1d7d65b0$58783110$@com> <8FDDE11A-8FCA-42FF-905F-CEC246E8E845@lenconnect.com> Message-ID: <83B20EF6-BCEE-40E8-B5F8-6A66C79E5D65@multiad.com> On Apr 8, 2008, at 16:17:39, Telegram Prepress wrote: > Based on Mac OSX, there was a change that took place in the way the > multiple files were/are selected. Try the command key next to the > spacebar. This works in OSX to select adjacent and nonadjacent files. That's for selecting non-contiguous items in a list. Always has been. But the shift key is still the way you select a range of contiguous items. _________________________________________________________ Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 Senior Software Architect MultiAd smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com From barbmail at optonline.net Wed Apr 9 13:07:41 2008 From: barbmail at optonline.net (barb) Date: Wed Apr 9 13:08:05 2008 Subject: pdf color seps Message-ID: Any way I can generate PDFs from Creator of the individual color plates in a document? Right now all I can do is generate a multipage PDF of all the color plates but I want each plate as a separate file. I used to extract them individually using Acrobat Pro, but I no longer have it on my Mac since I upgraded to Leopard. It was an old version of Pro and all I needed it for at this point was to extract pages. Anybody know any other way to do this? Barb From smills at multi-ad.com Wed Apr 9 13:12:56 2008 From: smills at multi-ad.com (Steve Mills) Date: Wed Apr 9 13:13:19 2008 Subject: pdf color seps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Apr 9, 2008, at 13:07:41, barb wrote: > Any way I can generate PDFs from Creator of the individual color > plates in a document? Right now all I can do is generate a multipage > PDF of all the color plates but I want each plate as a separate > file. I used to extract them individually using Acrobat Pro, but I > no longer have it on my Mac since I upgraded to Leopard. It was an > old version of Pro and all I needed it for at this point was to > extract pages. Anybody know any other way to do this? I haven't tried this, but if you open the multi-page (1 page per plate) pdf in Preview, I *think* it now has the ability to extract individual pages from a multi-page pdf. _________________________________________________________ Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 Senior Software Architect MultiAd smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com From gazetteads_rob at ohio.net Wed Apr 9 13:19:30 2008 From: gazetteads_rob at ohio.net (Rob Briggs) Date: Wed Apr 9 13:22:00 2008 Subject: pdf color seps References: Message-ID: <010a01c89a6e$457cdc70$9c01a8c0@Medina.local> I would try printing to Adobe PDF, sending one plate at a time. Rob Briggs Production Supervisor The Medina County Gazette 330.721.4081 ----- Original Message ----- From: "barb" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 2:07 PM Subject: pdf color seps > Any way I can generate PDFs from Creator of the individual color > plates in a document? Right now all I can do is generate a multipage > PDF of all the color plates but I want each plate as a separate file. > I used to extract them individually using Acrobat Pro, but I no longer > have it on my Mac since I upgraded to Leopard. It was an old version > of Pro and all I needed it for at this point was to extract pages. > Anybody know any other way to do this? > > Barb > _______________________________________________ > Creator mailing list > Creator@wacondatrader.com > http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator > > To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ > > Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ > > Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com > From barbmail at optonline.net Wed Apr 9 13:24:57 2008 From: barbmail at optonline.net (barb) Date: Wed Apr 9 13:25:36 2008 Subject: pdf color seps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Apr 9, 2008, at 2:12 PM, Steve Mills wrote: > On Apr 9, 2008, at 13:07:41, barb wrote: > >> Any way I can generate PDFs from Creator of the individual color >> plates in a document? Right now all I can do is generate a >> multipage PDF of all the color plates but I want each plate as a >> separate file. I used to extract them individually using Acrobat >> Pro, but I no longer have it on my Mac since I upgraded to Leopard. >> It was an old version of Pro and all I needed it for at this point >> was to extract pages. Anybody know any other way to do this? > > > I haven't tried this, but if you open the multi-page (1 page per > plate) pdf in Preview, I *think* it now has the ability to extract > individual pages from a multi-page pdf. Yes, I just tried Preview and I saw that I was able to delete the pages I didn't want. So I was able to accomplish what I needed by generating multiple PDFs of the color seps in Creator and then deleting the extra pages from each one. Any time in the future will Creator let you choose individual color seps in the Export PDF box like we can in the Print box? (You are probably going to say send it in as a suggestion, but I believe I did send it in once as a request, so it should already be in the database.) Barb From smills at multi-ad.com Wed Apr 9 13:33:23 2008 From: smills at multi-ad.com (Steve Mills) Date: Wed Apr 9 13:35:28 2008 Subject: pdf color seps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Apr 9, 2008, at 13:24:57, barb wrote: > (You are probably going to say send it in as a suggestion, but I > believe I did send it in once as a request, so it should already be > in the database.) Ah yes, 9897 at the end of last year. _________________________________________________________ Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 Senior Software Architect MultiAd smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com From lmnau at impactdigital.com.au Thu Apr 10 00:07:13 2008 From: lmnau at impactdigital.com.au (Luke McNeilage) Date: Thu Apr 10 00:09:11 2008 Subject: OT - FTP & Firewalls etc In-Reply-To: <47F64939.4030506@wdt.net> Message-ID: > She does not have static IP at home and we have a firewall. Any attempts > to set her up so that she can access from home have failed (her IP > address keeps changing) That's sounds like a ridiculously heavy firewall. It sounds more like you need to upgrade your FTP server. Just open all IP access on port 21, or at least the subnet of her ISP if you can narrow it down to that. Make sure your FTP doesn't allow anonymous or guest login. Make sure your gateway doesn't respond to anonymous internet requests like ping, telnet and finger. As long as your client has a strong username and password, you'll be fine. If you don't want anybody snooping your clients username and password, upgrade to secure FTP on port 115, but your client will need a FTP client that will support sFTP, like filezilla (PC and Mac) or Transmit (Mac), as sFTP isn't supported in the OS. I've been doing this for a very long time on over 100 servers, and never had a problem. Well once, but that was a guest guest account and some dumb russian tried to upload a spoof webpage, but because I keep my FTP server and my HTTP server separate (don't run IIS) it wasn't a problem. -- Luke McNeilage Information Technology Director Internet and Electronic Document Management Consultancy Services Email lmnau@impactdigital.com.au lmnau@d2p.com.au Mobile (61) 0419 512 868 Impact Digital Office (61 3) 9387 0999 SOHO (61 3) 9502 1999 skype lmcneilage -------------------------------------------- COMMERCIAL-IN-CONFIDENCE The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. ---------------------------------------------------------------- From rgaskin at wdt.net Thu Apr 10 06:18:48 2008 From: rgaskin at wdt.net (Rick Gaskin) Date: Thu Apr 10 06:19:11 2008 Subject: OT - FTP & Firewalls etc In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47FDF798.9080700@wdt.net> Thank you for the information. I will forward this to my IT people. Bruce form Telegram Press (a fellow creator list member) was able to solve my FTP issue. His generosity is greatly appreciated. Thank you Bruce!! Luke McNeilage wrote: >> She does not have static IP at home and we have a firewall. Any attempts >> to set her up so that she can access from home have failed (her IP >> address keeps changing) >> > > That's sounds like a ridiculously heavy firewall. It sounds more like you > need to upgrade your FTP server. Just open all IP access on port 21, or at > least the subnet of her ISP if you can narrow it down to that. Make sure > your FTP doesn't allow anonymous or guest login. Make sure your gateway > doesn't respond to anonymous internet requests like ping, telnet and finger. > > As long as your client has a strong username and password, you'll be fine. > > If you don't want anybody snooping your clients username and password, > upgrade to secure FTP on port 115, but your client will need a FTP client > that will support sFTP, like filezilla (PC and Mac) or Transmit (Mac), as > sFTP isn't supported in the OS. > > I've been doing this for a very long time on over 100 servers, and never had > a problem. Well once, but that was a guest guest account and some dumb > russian tried to upload a spoof webpage, but because I keep my FTP server > and my HTTP server separate (don't run IIS) it wasn't a problem. > -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message may be legally privileged and/or confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). No addressee should forward, print, copy, or otherwise reproduce this message in any manner that would allow it to be viewed by any individual not originally listed as a recipient. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized disclosure, dissemination, distribution, copying or the taking of any action in reliance on the information herein is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete this message. Thank you. From smills at multi-ad.com Thu Apr 10 07:58:19 2008 From: smills at multi-ad.com (Steve Mills) Date: Thu Apr 10 08:01:28 2008 Subject: OT - FTP & Firewalls etc In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5C764F99-114F-44E2-AC2A-62401E21D1AD@multiad.com> On Apr 10, 2008, at 00:07:13, Luke McNeilage wrote: > If you don't want anybody snooping your clients username and password, > upgrade to secure FTP on port 115, but your client will need a FTP > client > that will support sFTP, like filezilla (PC and Mac) or Transmit > (Mac), as > sFTP isn't supported in the OS. Or simply sftp in Terminal. _________________________________________________________ Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 Senior Software Architect MultiAd smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com From jdugger at heraldstandard.com Thu Apr 10 12:01:47 2008 From: jdugger at heraldstandard.com (Dugger Jack) Date: Thu Apr 10 11:58:41 2008 Subject: Strange problem Message-ID: Using Creator 8.0.2. I was trying to export a black box from Creator as an eps. Selection only. When I place this eps back into Creator I am getting the black box plus some white space with the black box. It almost looks like it is giving me the whole ad but the white space is smaller than the ad itself. I tried the same thing on Creator 8.0.1 and it works fine. Jack Dugger System Tech Uniontown Newspapers Inc. From smills at multi-ad.com Thu Apr 10 12:08:14 2008 From: smills at multi-ad.com (Steve Mills) Date: Thu Apr 10 12:08:37 2008 Subject: Strange problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Apr 10, 2008, at 12:01:47, Dugger Jack wrote: > Using Creator 8.0.2. > > I was trying to export a black box from Creator as an eps. Selection > only. > > When I place this eps back into Creator I am getting the black box > plus > some white space with the black box. > > It almost looks like it is giving me the whole ad but the white > space is > smaller than the ad itself. > > I tried the same thing on Creator 8.0.1 and it works fine. I'm not getting this in my tests, but there are tons of variables. Have you contacted tech support and supplied a document that demonstrates the problem? _________________________________________________________ Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 Senior Software Architect MultiAd smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com From jdugger at heraldstandard.com Thu Apr 10 13:32:29 2008 From: jdugger at heraldstandard.com (Dugger Jack) Date: Thu Apr 10 13:29:29 2008 Subject: Strange problem Message-ID: No I haven't -----Original Message----- From: creator-bounces@wacondatrader.com [mailto:creator-bounces@wacondatrader.com] On Behalf Of Steve Mills Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 1:08 PM To: creator@wacondatrader.com Subject: Re: Strange problem On Apr 10, 2008, at 12:01:47, Dugger Jack wrote: > Using Creator 8.0.2. > > I was trying to export a black box from Creator as an eps. Selection > only. > > When I place this eps back into Creator I am getting the black box > plus > some white space with the black box. > > It almost looks like it is giving me the whole ad but the white > space is > smaller than the ad itself. > > I tried the same thing on Creator 8.0.1 and it works fine. I'm not getting this in my tests, but there are tons of variables. Have you contacted tech support and supplied a document that demonstrates the problem? _________________________________________________________ Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 Senior Software Architect MultiAd smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com _______________________________________________ Creator mailing list Creator@wacondatrader.com http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: http://www.creatorsoftware.com From zmanring at mdpennysaver.com Fri Apr 11 15:49:43 2008 From: zmanring at mdpennysaver.com (Zach Manring) Date: Fri Apr 11 15:50:48 2008 Subject: Delete Empty Text Blocks In-Reply-To: <5C764F99-114F-44E2-AC2A-62401E21D1AD@multiad.com> Message-ID: Ok im getting burnt out about this.. Any ideas? tell application "MultiAd Creator Pro" set textcount to number of text flow of document 1 repeat with i from 1 to textcount select text flow i of document 1 set ztextcount to count every character of text flow i of document 1 if ztextcount < 1 then select text flow i of document 1 -- after its selected then I don't how to select it as an element, if I use it as "I" then it deletes the wrong element. delete end if end repeat end tell From smills at multi-ad.com Fri Apr 11 16:05:36 2008 From: smills at multi-ad.com (Steve Mills) Date: Fri Apr 11 16:06:14 2008 Subject: Delete Empty Text Blocks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Apr 11, 2008, at 15:49:43, Zach Manring wrote: > tell application "MultiAd Creator Pro" > set textcount to number of text flow of document 1 > repeat with i from 1 to textcount > select text flow i of document 1 > set ztextcount to count every character of text flow i of > document 1 > if ztextcount < 1 then > select text flow i of document 1 > > -- after its selected then I don't how to select it as an element, > if I use > it as "I" then it deletes the wrong element. > > delete > end if > end repeat > end tell A text flow is the object that holds and flows the text. Selecting a text flow simply selects its text. The text is flowed through text blocks (or text paths, both of which are subclasses of text container). Text blocks/paths are owned by shapes. If you know the flow only flows through 1 block/shape, then you can use text flow's owner shape property to easily get the shape. If not, then you'll have to walk the list of text containers and get each text container's owner shape. You're going to run into problem though when you delete objects that you're iterating through. If you delete object 2, then object 3 becomes object 2, and object 4 becomes object 3, so in the next iteration, i is incremented from 2 to 3, you'll skip what was object 3 and is now object 2. If objects will be deleted in a loop, you either need to loop backwards (which should prevent most indices from changing) or build a list of objects to delete, then delete them in a separate loop outside of the current loop. _________________________________________________________ Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 Senior Software Architect MultiAd smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com From zmanring at mdpennysaver.com Sat Apr 12 06:49:01 2008 From: zmanring at mdpennysaver.com (Zach Manring) Date: Sat Apr 12 06:50:11 2008 Subject: Delete Empty Text Blocks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ok I see what you mean, I could make it find it, then select it somehow and at the end delete selection? Kinda like the clear pasteboard script. Alright so how can I get the element info of the selected text flow that comes back at 0. Using the text flow owner shape? On 4/11/08 5:05 PM, "Steve Mills" wrote: > On Apr 11, 2008, at 15:49:43, Zach Manring wrote: > >> tell application "MultiAd Creator Pro" >> set textcount to number of text flow of document 1 >> repeat with i from 1 to textcount >> select text flow i of document 1 >> set ztextcount to count every character of text flow i of >> document 1 >> if ztextcount < 1 then >> select text flow i of document 1 >> >> -- after its selected then I don't how to select it as an element, >> if I use >> it as "I" then it deletes the wrong element. >> >> delete >> end if >> end repeat >> end tell > > > A text flow is the object that holds and flows the text. Selecting a > text flow simply selects its text. The text is flowed through text > blocks (or text paths, both of which are subclasses of text > container). Text blocks/paths are owned by shapes. If you know the > flow only flows through 1 block/shape, then you can use text flow's > owner shape property to easily get the shape. If not, then you'll have > to walk the list of text containers and get each text container's > owner shape. > > You're going to run into problem though when you delete objects that > you're iterating through. If you delete object 2, then object 3 > becomes object 2, and object 4 becomes object 3, so in the next > iteration, i is incremented from 2 to 3, you'll skip what was object 3 > and is now object 2. If objects will be deleted in a loop, you either > need to loop backwards (which should prevent most indices from > changing) or build a list of objects to delete, then delete them in a > separate loop outside of the current loop. > > _________________________________________________________ > Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 > Senior Software Architect MultiAd > smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Creator mailing list > Creator@wacondatrader.com > http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator > > To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ > > Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ > > Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com From smills at multi-ad.com Sat Apr 12 13:30:54 2008 From: smills at multi-ad.com (Steve Mills) Date: Sat Apr 12 13:31:18 2008 Subject: Delete Empty Text Blocks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Apr 12, 2008, at 06:49:01, Zach Manring wrote: > Ok I see what you mean, I could make it find it, then select it > somehow and > at the end delete selection? Kinda like the clear pasteboard script. > Alright > so how can I get the element info of the selected text flow that > comes back > at 0. Using the text flow owner shape? >> This assumes each flow has only 1 block. tell application "MultiAd Creator Pro" set emptyShapes to {} set num to number of text flows of document 1 repeat with i from 1 to num if length of text flow i of document 1 is 0 then set end of emptyShapes to get owner shape of text container 1 of text flow i of document 1 end if end repeat delete emptyShapes end tell _________________________________________________________ Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 Senior Software Architect MultiAd smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com From lmnau at impactdigital.com.au Mon Apr 14 00:36:14 2008 From: lmnau at impactdigital.com.au (Luke McNeilage) Date: Mon Apr 14 00:37:57 2008 Subject: OT - FTP & Firewalls etc In-Reply-To: <5C764F99-114F-44E2-AC2A-62401E21D1AD@multiad.com> Message-ID: > Or simply sftp in Terminal. No offence, but If they can't navigate a firewall... -- Luke McNeilage Information Technology Director Internet and Electronic Document Management Consultancy Services Email lmnau@impactdigital.com.au lmnau@d2p.com.au Mobile (61) 0419 512 868 Impact Digital Office (61 3) 9387 0999 SOHO (61 3) 9502 1999 skype lmcneilage -------------------------------------------- COMMERCIAL-IN-CONFIDENCE The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. 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From smills at multi-ad.com Mon Apr 14 12:10:25 2008 From: smills at multi-ad.com (Steve Mills) Date: Mon Apr 14 12:10:42 2008 Subject: OT: odd question - keyboard font In-Reply-To: <48038E9B.9060507@wdt.net> References: <48038E9B.9060507@wdt.net> Message-ID: On Apr 14, 2008, at 12:04:27, Rick Gaskin wrote: > what font is used on the keys of a standard mac (or other) keyboard? > > i need to reproduce the help key and i am left wondering what font > to use??? > > its not helvetica (perhaps its some incarnation of helvetica..but > not straight helvetica) Google is your friend. _________________________________________________________ Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 Senior Software Architect MultiAd smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com From rgaskin at wdt.net Mon Apr 14 12:17:36 2008 From: rgaskin at wdt.net (Rick Gaskin) Date: Mon Apr 14 12:17:56 2008 Subject: OT: odd question - keyboard font In-Reply-To: References: <48038E9B.9060507@wdt.net> Message-ID: <480391B0.6040300@wdt.net> contrary to popular belief ...google and i are no longer friends..we haven't spoken since the 2007 Christmas party Steve Mills wrote: > On Apr 14, 2008, at 12:04:27, Rick Gaskin wrote: > >> what font is used on the keys of a standard mac (or other) keyboard? >> >> i need to reproduce the help key and i am left wondering what font to >> use??? >> >> its not helvetica (perhaps its some incarnation of helvetica..but not >> straight helvetica) > > > Google is your friend. > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 > Senior Software Architect MultiAd > smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Creator mailing list > Creator@wacondatrader.com > http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator > > To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ > > Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ > > Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com > > -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message may be legally privileged and/or confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). 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From smills at multi-ad.com Mon Apr 14 12:54:25 2008 From: smills at multi-ad.com (Steve Mills) Date: Mon Apr 14 12:54:49 2008 Subject: OT: odd question - keyboard font In-Reply-To: <480391B0.6040300@wdt.net> References: <48038E9B.9060507@wdt.net> <480391B0.6040300@wdt.net> Message-ID: <00D3933A-B2E9-4EA6-BE5B-C302468B82BA@multiad.com> On Apr 14, 2008, at 12:17:36, Rick Gaskin wrote: > contrary to popular belief ...google and i are no longer friends..we > haven't spoken since the 2007 Christmas party Oh yes. It was uncomfortable enough when Google drank too much and made out with Yahoo in the network wiring closet, but that was nothing compared to what happened between the two of you. _________________________________________________________ Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 Senior Software Architect MultiAd smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com From rgaskin at wdt.net Mon Apr 14 13:08:32 2008 From: rgaskin at wdt.net (Rick Gaskin) Date: Mon Apr 14 13:08:49 2008 Subject: OT: odd question - keyboard font In-Reply-To: <00D3933A-B2E9-4EA6-BE5B-C302468B82BA@multiad.com> References: <48038E9B.9060507@wdt.net> <480391B0.6040300@wdt.net> <00D3933A-B2E9-4EA6-BE5B-C302468B82BA@multiad.com> Message-ID: <48039DA0.7090401@wdt.net> Don't even get me started about Yahoo!!! ..running around claiming Microsoft "under valued" them Well, maybe there is reason why you are sooooooooo "under vlaued"...you ever think of that!! Steve Mills wrote: > On Apr 14, 2008, at 12:17:36, Rick Gaskin wrote: > >> contrary to popular belief ...google and i are no longer friends..we >> haven't spoken since the 2007 Christmas party > > > Oh yes. It was uncomfortable enough when Google drank too much and > made out with Yahoo in the network wiring closet, but that was nothing > compared to what happened between the two of you. > > _________________________________________________________ > Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 > Senior Software Architect MultiAd > smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Creator mailing list > Creator@wacondatrader.com > http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator > > To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ > > Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ > > Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com > > -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message may be legally privileged and/or confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). 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From barbmail at optonline.net Mon Apr 14 14:52:14 2008 From: barbmail at optonline.net (barb) Date: Mon Apr 14 14:52:30 2008 Subject: OT: odd question - keyboard font In-Reply-To: <48038E9B.9060507@wdt.net> References: <48038E9B.9060507@wdt.net> Message-ID: <4AD9BCC5-F757-48B7-B3C8-9AD81AECC1C4@optonline.net> On Apr 14, 2008, at 1:04 PM, Rick Gaskin wrote: > what font is used on the keys of a standard mac (or other) keyboard? > > i need to reproduce the help key and i am left wondering what font > to use??? Don't know if this is something that would interest you but there's an Image Club font named Qwerty that I once used for making training instructions. The characters are actually the entire key, but they are not the keys of the new aluminum keyboards, they are the previous keyboard. I just checked and it does contain the Help key. Barb From rgaskin at wdt.net Tue Apr 15 06:08:56 2008 From: rgaskin at wdt.net (Rick Gaskin) Date: Tue Apr 15 06:51:18 2008 Subject: OT: odd question - keyboard font In-Reply-To: <4AD9BCC5-F757-48B7-B3C8-9AD81AECC1C4@optonline.net> References: <48038E9B.9060507@wdt.net> <4AD9BCC5-F757-48B7-B3C8-9AD81AECC1C4@optonline.net> Message-ID: <48048CC8.2040307@wdt.net> Cool! Thank you Barb I will check it out barb wrote: > On Apr 14, 2008, at 1:04 PM, Rick Gaskin wrote: > >> what font is used on the keys of a standard mac (or other) keyboard? >> >> i need to reproduce the help key and i am left wondering what font to >> use??? > > Don't know if this is something that would interest you but there's an > Image Club font named Qwerty that I once used for making training > instructions. The characters are actually the entire key, but they are > not the keys of the new aluminum keyboards, they are the previous > keyboard. I just checked and it does contain the Help key. > > Barb > > _______________________________________________ > Creator mailing list > Creator@wacondatrader.com > http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator > > To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ > > Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ > > Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com > > -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message may be legally privileged and/or confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). No addressee should forward, print, copy, or otherwise reproduce this message in any manner that would allow it to be viewed by any individual not originally listed as a recipient. 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We would love to hear your input. Thanks! Deanne Frank Help Desk Supervisor The Free Lance-Star Companies 616 Amelia Street Fredericksburg, VA 22401 540.368.5025 dfrank@freelancestar.com This message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure under law. If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that the dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited, and that this message should be deleted from your system. The Free Lance-Star Publishing Company accepts no liability for the content of this message, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided. If you receive this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender and delete the document from your computer. From lzindler at somdnews.com Thu Apr 17 14:46:23 2008 From: lzindler at somdnews.com (Zindler, Lynn) Date: Thu Apr 17 14:46:47 2008 Subject: Ad Tracking System? References: Message-ID: <67AE35A5840EFF448FA5607911472995C6032F@gs16.gazette.net> We use DPS AdTracker and have been using it for about 7 years. It is very reliable and keeps up with Creator updates. We are on a PC platform and are using Creator 7.6 and getting ready to upgrade to Creator 8. I have a test pc that I'm running Creator 8 on and the latest version of AdTracker and everything is working well. Lynn Zindler Systems Administrator Post Newsweek Media Inc. Southern Maryland Newspapers 7 Industrial Park Drive Waldorf, MD 20602 301-764-2803 -----Original Message----- From: creator-bounces@wacondatrader.com [mailto:creator-bounces@wacondatrader.com] On Behalf Of Deanne Frank Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 3:37 PM To: creator@wacondatrader.com Subject: Ad Tracking System? We were at Nexpo this past weekend. We stopped by the Agfa booth. We had a discussion with our rep. We were told that AdSuite is no longer being developed for upgrade purposes. Agfa is in a support mode with it. We wanted to get a feel if any of you are using it today, are you contemplating moving to something else? If you are, what are you considering? Does anyone else have a suggestion as to if something is working well for them? We would love to hear your input. Thanks! Deanne Frank Help Desk Supervisor The Free Lance-Star Companies 616 Amelia Street Fredericksburg, VA 22401 540.368.5025 dfrank@freelancestar.com This message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure under law. If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that the dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited, and that this message should be deleted from your system. The Free Lance-Star Publishing Company accepts no liability for the content of this message, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided. If you receive this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender and delete the document from your computer. _______________________________________________ Creator mailing list Creator@wacondatrader.com http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: http://www.creatorsoftware.com From mradosevic at earthlink.net Thu Apr 17 15:09:50 2008 From: mradosevic at earthlink.net (M Radosevic) Date: Thu Apr 17 15:10:31 2008 Subject: Ad Tracking System? Message-ID: <5940342.1208462991033.JavaMail.root@elwamui-sweet.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Deanne, Definitely look at DPS (Database Publishing Systems). Zeke and Bill Solimeno are both terrific, and the system is solid. Lots of installs all over the country, and you'll like the way that your Asura server integrates with AdTracker. Talk to Zeke or Bill. (860)721-9700 http://www.dps-ct.com You should also consider XPance from MorCor. Very nice system for your sized paper - feature-rich and scalable. Another company that is headed by terrific guys that REALLY know this facet of the business. You'll want to speak with Kenn Morrison at (613) 354-2912. http://www.morcor.com Both of these companies are VERY reputable and reliable, have lots of experience with Creator, and also have integration with Asura. There are other systems out there (Agfa, DTI, Tera, SaxoTech, CCI-Europe, etc.) but for your sized business, DPS and MorCor would be hard to beat. -Marc Marc Radosevic VP Sales, North America OneVision, Inc. (309) 868-9465 -----Original Message----- >From: "Zindler, Lynn" >Sent: Apr 17, 2008 2:46 PM >To: creator@wacondatrader.com >Subject: RE: Ad Tracking System? > >We use DPS AdTracker and have been using it for about 7 years. It is >very reliable and keeps up with Creator updates. We are on a PC platform >and are using Creator 7.6 and getting ready to upgrade to Creator 8. I >have a test pc that I'm running Creator 8 on and the latest version of >AdTracker and everything is working well. > >Lynn Zindler >Systems Administrator >Post Newsweek Media Inc. >Southern Maryland Newspapers >7 Industrial Park Drive >Waldorf, MD 20602 >301-764-2803 > >-----Original Message----- >From: creator-bounces@wacondatrader.com >[mailto:creator-bounces@wacondatrader.com] On Behalf Of Deanne Frank >Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 3:37 PM >To: creator@wacondatrader.com >Subject: Ad Tracking System? > >We were at Nexpo this past weekend. We stopped by the Agfa booth. We >had a discussion with our rep. We were told that AdSuite is no longer >being developed for upgrade purposes. Agfa is in a support mode with >it. We wanted to get a feel if any of you are using it today, are you >contemplating moving to something else? If you are, what are you >considering? Does anyone else have a suggestion as to if something is >working well for them? We would love to hear your input. > >Thanks! > > >Deanne Frank >Help Desk Supervisor >The Free Lance-Star Companies >616 Amelia Street >Fredericksburg, VA 22401 >540.368.5025 >dfrank@freelancestar.com > > > > >This message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) >and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure >under law. If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are notified >that the dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is >strictly prohibited, and that this message should be deleted from your >system. The Free Lance-Star Publishing Company accepts no liability for >the content of this message, or for the consequences of any actions >taken on the basis of the information provided. If you receive this >message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please notify the >sender and delete the document from your computer. >_______________________________________________ >Creator mailing list >Creator@wacondatrader.com >http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator > >To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: >http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ > >Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ > >Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: >http://www.creatorsoftware.com > > >_______________________________________________ >Creator mailing list >Creator@wacondatrader.com >http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator > >To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: >http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ > >Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ > >Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: >http://www.creatorsoftware.com From kstoinoff at mediaspansoftware.com Fri Apr 18 09:30:46 2008 From: kstoinoff at mediaspansoftware.com (Kevin Stoinoff) Date: Fri Apr 18 09:31:22 2008 Subject: Ad-tracking system? Message-ID: May I also suggest ProductionManagerPro from MediaSpan. http://www.mediaspansoftware.com ProuctionManagerPro supports Creator (in addition to Quark and InDesign). It also integrates with Asura, Distiller, and other 3rd part products. You can contact Ken Freedman VP of sales for more information 734.887.4400 -kevin --------------------------------------------------------- Kevin Stoinoff ? Production Product Manager MediaSpan Media Software (http://www.mediaspansoftware.com) 333 Jackson Plaza ? Ann Arbor, MI 48103 Phone 734.887.4400 ? Fax 734.662.5204 E-Mail kstoinoff@mediaspansoftware.com From bstafirski at alltel.net Fri Apr 18 10:18:38 2008 From: bstafirski at alltel.net (Bambi Stafirski) Date: Fri Apr 18 10:29:33 2008 Subject: Ad Tracking System? In-Reply-To: <67AE35A5840EFF448FA5607911472995C6032F@gs16.gazette.net> References: <67AE35A5840EFF448FA5607911472995C6032F@gs16.gazette.net> Message-ID: <000001c8a167$7acdf300$5601010a@Elyria.ChronicleTelegram.com> We too are using DPS Ad Tracker, EPSer, Ad-Alert and Ad Tracker-Online We're pleased, on the whole, with all these products. Bambi Stafirski The Chronicle-Telegram bstafirski@chroniclet.com -----Original Message----- From: creator-bounces@wacondatrader.com [mailto:creator-bounces@wacondatrader.com] On Behalf Of Zindler, Lynn Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 3:46 PM To: creator@wacondatrader.com Subject: RE: Ad Tracking System? We use DPS AdTracker and have been using it for about 7 years. It is very reliable and keeps up with Creator updates. We are on a PC platform and are using Creator 7.6 and getting ready to upgrade to Creator 8. I have a test pc that I'm running Creator 8 on and the latest version of AdTracker and everything is working well. Lynn Zindler Systems Administrator Post Newsweek Media Inc. Southern Maryland Newspapers 7 Industrial Park Drive Waldorf, MD 20602 301-764-2803 -----Original Message----- From: creator-bounces@wacondatrader.com [mailto:creator-bounces@wacondatrader.com] On Behalf Of Deanne Frank Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 3:37 PM To: creator@wacondatrader.com Subject: Ad Tracking System? We were at Nexpo this past weekend. We stopped by the Agfa booth. We had a discussion with our rep. We were told that AdSuite is no longer being developed for upgrade purposes. Agfa is in a support mode with it. We wanted to get a feel if any of you are using it today, are you contemplating moving to something else? If you are, what are you considering? Does anyone else have a suggestion as to if something is working well for them? We would love to hear your input. Thanks! Deanne Frank Help Desk Supervisor The Free Lance-Star Companies 616 Amelia Street Fredericksburg, VA 22401 540.368.5025 dfrank@freelancestar.com This message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure under law. If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that the dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited, and that this message should be deleted from your system. The Free Lance-Star Publishing Company accepts no liability for the content of this message, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided. If you receive this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender and delete the document from your computer. _______________________________________________ Creator mailing list Creator@wacondatrader.com http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: http://www.creatorsoftware.com _______________________________________________ Creator mailing list Creator@wacondatrader.com http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: http://www.creatorsoftware.com From sclemente at maned.com Fri Apr 18 11:05:17 2008 From: sclemente at maned.com (Saly Clemente) Date: Fri Apr 18 11:06:08 2008 Subject: Ad Tracking System? In-Reply-To: <000001c8a167$7acdf300$5601010a@Elyria.ChronicleTelegram.com> References: <67AE35A5840EFF448FA5607911472995C6032F@gs16.gazette.net>, <000001c8a167$7acdf300$5601010a@Elyria.ChronicleTelegram.com> Message-ID: Is anyone using Roundhouse or IPS? ________________________________________ From: creator-bounces@wacondatrader.com [creator-bounces@wacondatrader.com] On Behalf Of Bambi Stafirski [bstafirski@alltel.net] Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 11:18 AM To: creator@wacondatrader.com Subject: RE: Ad Tracking System? We too are using DPS Ad Tracker, EPSer, Ad-Alert and Ad Tracker-Online We're pleased, on the whole, with all these products. Bambi Stafirski The Chronicle-Telegram bstafirski@chroniclet.com -----Original Message----- From: creator-bounces@wacondatrader.com [mailto:creator-bounces@wacondatrader.com] On Behalf Of Zindler, Lynn Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 3:46 PM To: creator@wacondatrader.com Subject: RE: Ad Tracking System? We use DPS AdTracker and have been using it for about 7 years. It is very reliable and keeps up with Creator updates. We are on a PC platform and are using Creator 7.6 and getting ready to upgrade to Creator 8. I have a test pc that I'm running Creator 8 on and the latest version of AdTracker and everything is working well. Lynn Zindler Systems Administrator Post Newsweek Media Inc. Southern Maryland Newspapers 7 Industrial Park Drive Waldorf, MD 20602 301-764-2803 -----Original Message----- From: creator-bounces@wacondatrader.com [mailto:creator-bounces@wacondatrader.com] On Behalf Of Deanne Frank Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 3:37 PM To: creator@wacondatrader.com Subject: Ad Tracking System? We were at Nexpo this past weekend. We stopped by the Agfa booth. We had a discussion with our rep. We were told that AdSuite is no longer being developed for upgrade purposes. Agfa is in a support mode with it. We wanted to get a feel if any of you are using it today, are you contemplating moving to something else? If you are, what are you considering? Does anyone else have a suggestion as to if something is working well for them? We would love to hear your input. Thanks! Deanne Frank Help Desk Supervisor The Free Lance-Star Companies 616 Amelia Street Fredericksburg, VA 22401 540.368.5025 dfrank@freelancestar.com This message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure under law. If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that the dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited, and that this message should be deleted from your system. The Free Lance-Star Publishing Company accepts no liability for the content of this message, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided. If you receive this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender and delete the document from your computer. _______________________________________________ Creator mailing list Creator@wacondatrader.com http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: http://www.creatorsoftware.com _______________________________________________ Creator mailing list Creator@wacondatrader.com http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: http://www.creatorsoftware.com _______________________________________________ Creator mailing list Creator@wacondatrader.com http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: http://www.creatorsoftware.com From zmanring at mdpennysaver.com Fri Apr 18 12:01:21 2008 From: zmanring at mdpennysaver.com (Zach Manring) Date: Fri Apr 18 12:02:15 2008 Subject: OT: odd question - keyboard font In-Reply-To: <00D3933A-B2E9-4EA6-BE5B-C302468B82BA@multiad.com> Message-ID: Steve im designing a palette, how can I tell a button in a palette to run a script, or does the script have to be in with the palette script? From smills at multi-ad.com Fri Apr 18 12:08:55 2008 From: smills at multi-ad.com (Steve Mills) Date: Fri Apr 18 12:09:12 2008 Subject: OT: odd question - keyboard font In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2AA69A80-3EEF-4CDE-8B99-33E761373E7B@multiad.com> On Apr 18, 2008, at 12:01:21, Zach Manring wrote: > Steve im designing a palette, how can I tell a button in a palette > to run a > script, or does the script have to be in with the palette script? It's easier if it's in the same script, but you can certainly execute other script files. See the Fan Text Selection script in Script Menu Folder/Text Effects/ for an example. It calls the script "Get 2 Values" in the Scripts Folder. _________________________________________________________ Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 Senior Software Architect MultiAd smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com From zmanring at mdpennysaver.com Fri Apr 18 12:15:50 2008 From: zmanring at mdpennysaver.com (Zach Manring) Date: Fri Apr 18 12:16:30 2008 Subject: OT: odd question - keyboard font In-Reply-To: <2AA69A80-3EEF-4CDE-8B99-33E761373E7B@multiad.com> Message-ID: Funny thing is I was lookin into that script yesterday cuz it doesn't seem to work for me. On 4/18/08 1:08 PM, "Steve Mills" wrote: > On Apr 18, 2008, at 12:01:21, Zach Manring wrote: > >> Steve im designing a palette, how can I tell a button in a palette >> to run a >> script, or does the script have to be in with the palette script? > > > It's easier if it's in the same script, but you can certainly execute > other script files. See the Fan Text Selection script in Script Menu > Folder/Text Effects/ for an example. It calls the script "Get 2 > Values" in the Scripts Folder. > > _________________________________________________________ > Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 > Senior Software Architect MultiAd > smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Creator mailing list > Creator@wacondatrader.com > http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator > > To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ > > Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ > > Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com From smills at multi-ad.com Fri Apr 18 12:24:46 2008 From: smills at multi-ad.com (Steve Mills) Date: Fri Apr 18 12:25:03 2008 Subject: OT: odd question - keyboard font In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9E3529C0-16F1-4816-9960-D2A7BC9F7750@multiad.com> On Apr 18, 2008, at 12:15:50, Zach Manring wrote: > Funny thing is I was lookin into that script yesterday cuz it > doesn't seem > to work for me. There was a bug fixed in Creator, that script, and Stairstep Text Selection. The fix will be in 8.0.3, but the code that loads and calls the external script is unchanged, so you could still look to it for an example. _________________________________________________________ Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 Senior Software Architect MultiAd smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com From rgaskin at wdt.net Fri Apr 18 12:48:11 2008 From: rgaskin at wdt.net (Rick Gaskin) Date: Fri Apr 18 12:48:45 2008 Subject: OT: how to modify quacker script Message-ID: <4808DEDB.8010004@wdt.net> My Yummy FTP has issues. It hasn't failed me since installation and lately..all it does is crash after uploading files (long story..jason at yummy is working on it) so, until Yummy is fixed i decided to use CyberDuck Cyper duck comes with a handy folder action script for uploading files. The problem is...that everytime it uploads a file it creates a new FTP window and doesn't close it. Yeah yeah this is a scripting 101 issue....and I am guessing, but I assume the problem is the line that reads set theBrowser to (make new browser) or maybe there needs to be a line that says close window?? entire script below...all i wnat it do to is upload and then close window when its done on adding folder items to this_folder after receiving added_items set theServer to "xxx" set theUser to "yyy" set thePassword to "zzz" set theProtocol to "ftp" set theUploadFolder to "upload" set the item_count to the number of items in the added_items if the item_count is greater than 0 then with timeout of 300 seconds tell application "Cyberduck" set theBrowser to (make new browser) tell (theBrowser) set encoding to "UTF-8" connect to theServer with protocol theProtocol as user theUser with initial folder theUploadFolder repeat with theFile in added_items upload item theFile end repeat disconnect end tell end tell end timeout end if end adding folder items to -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message may be legally privileged and/or confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). 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From smills at multi-ad.com Fri Apr 18 12:54:42 2008 From: smills at multi-ad.com (Steve Mills) Date: Fri Apr 18 12:55:13 2008 Subject: OT: how to modify quacker script In-Reply-To: <4808DEDB.8010004@wdt.net> References: <4808DEDB.8010004@wdt.net> Message-ID: <43788E50-F578-4549-8BEA-31630ACE0511@multiad.com> On Apr 18, 2008, at 12:48:11, Rick Gaskin wrote: > Yeah yeah this is a scripting 101 issue....and I am guessing, but I > assume the problem is the line that reads > > set theBrowser to (make new browser) > > or maybe there needs to be a line that says close window?? I don't have CyberDuck, but my guess would be that yes, you can close the window. Perhaps you can simply "delete theBrowser". Look at the CymberDuck dictionary and see if a browser owns 1 or more windows. If so, you could probably "close every window of theBrowser". Or if it always has only one window it might be a property, so you might be able to "close of theBrowser". _________________________________________________________ Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 Senior Software Architect MultiAd smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com From zmanring at mdpennysaver.com Fri Apr 18 12:57:58 2008 From: zmanring at mdpennysaver.com (Zach Manring) Date: Fri Apr 18 12:58:55 2008 Subject: Calling script inside another script In-Reply-To: <43788E50-F578-4549-8BEA-31630ACE0511@multiad.com> Message-ID: Unless im completely blind, ive look through that script on my computer and I do not see where it would call information from another script. Maybe I have a past version. 2002 I think. From smills at multi-ad.com Fri Apr 18 13:11:51 2008 From: smills at multi-ad.com (Steve Mills) Date: Fri Apr 18 13:12:29 2008 Subject: Calling script inside another script In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41B27A26-23B1-4241-9477-4E4AA53399BD@multiad.com> I cc'd you so you get the styled text, which I think will be stripped by the listserver. On Apr 18, 2008, at 12:57:58, Zach Manring wrote: > Unless im completely blind, ive look through that script on my > computer and > I do not see where it would call information from another script. > Maybe I > have a past version. 2002 I think. try This part asks Creator for a reference to the Scripts Folder, converts it to a path, adds the file name to the end, and finally converts that to an alias. set scriptPath to (((Scripts Folder) as string) & "Get 2 Values") as alias on error display dialog "The script ?Get 2 Values? was not found in the ?Scripts Folder? in the ?MultiAd Creator Add-Ons? folder." buttons {"Cancel"} default button 1 with icon stop return end try This part loads the script file into a script object, then calls the routine named "Get2Values" in that script object. It stores the result in rep (short for reply) for later use. tell application "Finder" set utilScript to (load script scriptPath) set rep to (Get2Values("Starting slant:", startSlant, "Ending slant:", endSlant) of utilScript) end tell _________________________________________________________ Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 Senior Software Architect MultiAd smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com From rgaskin at wdt.net Tue Apr 22 12:35:59 2008 From: rgaskin at wdt.net (Rick Gaskin) Date: Tue Apr 22 12:36:33 2008 Subject: lil pointy things Message-ID: <480E21FF.5040608@wdt.net> when i outline certian fonts, i get lil pointy things extending off the baseline of the letters..see example http://i28.tinypic.com/29atagz.jpg the v's are generating lil pointy things...how do i get rid of them -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message may be legally privileged and/or confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). No addressee should forward, print, copy, or otherwise reproduce this message in any manner that would allow it to be viewed by any individual not originally listed as a recipient. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized disclosure, dissemination, distribution, copying or the taking of any action in reliance on the information herein is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete this message. Thank you. From smills at multi-ad.com Tue Apr 22 12:40:39 2008 From: smills at multi-ad.com (Steve Mills) Date: Tue Apr 22 12:41:32 2008 Subject: lil pointy things In-Reply-To: <480E21FF.5040608@wdt.net> References: <480E21FF.5040608@wdt.net> Message-ID: <7DA7A606-86D3-4EDF-9C1C-5B6E30AAC068@multiad.com> On Apr 22, 2008, at 12:35:59, Rick Gaskin wrote: > when i outline certian fonts, i get lil pointy things extending off > the baseline of the letters..see example > > http://i28.tinypic.com/29atagz.jpg > > the v's are generating lil pointy things...how do i get rid of them Edit the path. What font is that? I want to check 8.0.3. _________________________________________________________ Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 Senior Software Architect MultiAd smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com From zmanring at mdpennysaver.com Tue Apr 22 12:43:26 2008 From: zmanring at mdpennysaver.com (Zach Manring) Date: Tue Apr 22 12:48:14 2008 Subject: lil pointy things In-Reply-To: <480E21FF.5040608@wdt.net> Message-ID: Now Im not sure how to fix that automaticly, but it is created from the internal outline, such as an "A" the point from the middle extends from the top. Manually, You could make it as outlines and use your reshape tool to fix. From rgaskin at wdt.net Tue Apr 22 12:50:00 2008 From: rgaskin at wdt.net (Rick Gaskin) Date: Tue Apr 22 12:52:12 2008 Subject: lil pointy things In-Reply-To: <7DA7A606-86D3-4EDF-9C1C-5B6E30AAC068@multiad.com> References: <480E21FF.5040608@wdt.net> <7DA7A606-86D3-4EDF-9C1C-5B6E30AAC068@multiad.com> Message-ID: <480E2548.7060501@wdt.net> the font is freestyle script medium Steve Mills wrote: > On Apr 22, 2008, at 12:35:59, Rick Gaskin wrote: > >> when i outline certian fonts, i get lil pointy things extending off >> the baseline of the letters..see example >> >> http://i28.tinypic.com/29atagz.jpg >> >> the v's are generating lil pointy things...how do i get rid of them > > > Edit the path. What font is that? I want to check 8.0.3. > > _________________________________________________________ > Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 > Senior Software Architect MultiAd > smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Creator mailing list > Creator@wacondatrader.com > http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator > > To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ > > Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ > > Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com > > -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message may be legally privileged and/or confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). No addressee should forward, print, copy, or otherwise reproduce this message in any manner that would allow it to be viewed by any individual not originally listed as a recipient. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized disclosure, dissemination, distribution, copying or the taking of any action in reliance on the information herein is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete this message. Thank you. From susan.whittaker at mcall.com Tue Apr 22 12:55:47 2008 From: susan.whittaker at mcall.com (swhittaker) Date: Tue Apr 22 12:56:20 2008 Subject: lil pointy things In-Reply-To: <480E2548.7060501@wdt.net> Message-ID: It really doesn't have anything to do with the font being used. It is actually the point size of the font that is being outlined. The larger the point size of the font, the more likely you are to get little pointy things. If you make the point size smaller you will see the pointy things disappear, the outline. On 4/22/08 1:50 PM, "Rick Gaskin" wrote: > the font is freestyle script medium > > Steve Mills wrote: >> On Apr 22, 2008, at 12:35:59, Rick Gaskin wrote: >> >>> when i outline certian fonts, i get lil pointy things extending off >>> the baseline of the letters..see example >>> >>> http://i28.tinypic.com/29atagz.jpg >>> >>> the v's are generating lil pointy things...how do i get rid of them >> >> >> Edit the path. What font is that? I want to check 8.0.3. >> >> _________________________________________________________ >> Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 >> Senior Software Architect MultiAd >> smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Creator mailing list >> Creator@wacondatrader.com >> http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator >> >> To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: >> http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ >> >> Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ >> >> Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: >> http://www.creatorsoftware.com >> >> From rgaskin at wdt.net Tue Apr 22 13:12:22 2008 From: rgaskin at wdt.net (Rick Gaskin) Date: Tue Apr 22 13:16:57 2008 Subject: lil pointy things In-Reply-To: <7DA7A606-86D3-4EDF-9C1C-5B6E30AAC068@multiad.com> References: <480E21FF.5040608@wdt.net> <7DA7A606-86D3-4EDF-9C1C-5B6E30AAC068@multiad.com> Message-ID: <480E2A86.20305@wdt.net> converting text to paths just makes the program crash...perhaps i should take off the outline first?? 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