From joe at wacondatrader.com Mon Jun 2 12:48:13 2008 From: joe at wacondatrader.com (Joe Sporleder) Date: Mon Jun 2 12:48:51 2008 Subject: Off Topic, Tornadoes Message-ID: <24655DEF-122C-49B8-823A-356FFFA178C2@wacondatrader.com> Hey, Just letting everyone know we are still here, but we have been dodging tornadoes a lot recently, and the Creator list is alive and well. We've had them within 10 miles or so of our office here in Beloit, Kansas. On the right hand side of the following website you can see what we've been dealing with lately, including a video from some professional storm chasers out of Tulsa Oklahoma. Their video is of a tornado that touched down about 15 miles west of us near Waconda Lake. http://www.kvsvradio.com/ Joe From mried at tpprinting.com Mon Jun 2 13:12:07 2008 From: mried at tpprinting.com (Martha Ried) Date: Mon Jun 2 13:15:02 2008 Subject: Off Topic, Tornadoes In-Reply-To: <24655DEF-122C-49B8-823A-356FFFA178C2@wacondatrader.com> References: <24655DEF-122C-49B8-823A-356FFFA178C2@wacondatrader.com> Message-ID: <87B83E59-A2AC-4140-95E6-A7259F2D71B1@tpprinting.com> Glad to hear you're still there, because the forum is awesome! We've been pretty lucky up here in central WI. Back in 2002 the feed mill (which was only 100 feet from us) was hit by a tornado and totally destroyed, but left our building intact. That was a total wake-up call! http://www.crh.noaa.gov/arx/events/abbot.php On Jun 2, 2008, at 12:48 PM, Joe Sporleder wrote: > Hey, > > Just letting everyone know we are still here, but we have been > dodging tornadoes a lot recently, and the Creator list is alive and > well. We've had them within 10 miles or so of our office here in > Beloit, Kansas. On the right hand side of the following website you > can see what we've been dealing with lately, including a video from > some professional storm chasers out of Tulsa Oklahoma. Their video > is of a tornado that touched down about 15 miles west of us near > Waconda Lake. > > http://www.kvsvradio.com/ > > Joe > _______________________________________________ > Creator mailing list > Creator@wacondatrader.com > http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator > > To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ > > Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ > > Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com > From jkelly at pennysaverusa.com Mon Jun 2 13:32:51 2008 From: jkelly at pennysaverusa.com (jkelly@pennysaverusa.com) Date: Mon Jun 2 13:34:34 2008 Subject: Off Topic, Tornadoes In-Reply-To: <87B83E59-A2AC-4140-95E6-A7259F2D71B1@tpprinting.com> Message-ID: We're OK, too, not that this was a disastrous tornado. But this is Southern California! It did not touch down near any of our offices that I'm aware of, but some employees did witness it. http://weathercurrents.com/lakeelsinore/NewsItemDisplay.do?Id=477 ______________________ Jerry Kelly PennySaverUSA.com (714) 577-4818 creator-bounces@wacondatrader.com wrote on 06/02/2008 11:12:07 AM: > Glad to hear you're still there, because the forum is awesome! We've > been pretty lucky up here in central WI. Back in 2002 the feed mill > (which was only 100 feet from us) was hit by a tornado and totally > destroyed, but left our building intact. That was a total wake-up call! > http://www.crh.noaa.gov/arx/events/abbot.php > > On Jun 2, 2008, at 12:48 PM, Joe Sporleder wrote: > > > Hey, > > > > Just letting everyone know we are still here, but we have been > > dodging tornadoes a lot recently, and the Creator list is alive and > > well. We've had them within 10 miles or so of our office here in > > Beloit, Kansas. On the right hand side of the following website you > > can see what we've been dealing with lately, including a video from > > some professional storm chasers out of Tulsa Oklahoma. Their video > > is of a tornado that touched down about 15 miles west of us near > > Waconda Lake. > > > > http://www.kvsvradio.com/ > > > > Joe > > _______________________________________________ > > Creator mailing list > > Creator@wacondatrader.com > > http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator > > > > To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: > > http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ > > > > Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ > > > > Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: > > http://www.creatorsoftware.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Creator mailing list > Creator@wacondatrader.com > http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator > > To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ > > Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ > > Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com From peterpica at comcast.net Mon Jun 2 13:46:18 2008 From: peterpica at comcast.net (Peter Stremic) Date: Mon Jun 2 13:47:27 2008 Subject: Off Topic, Tornadoes In-Reply-To: <24655DEF-122C-49B8-823A-356FFFA178C2@wacondatrader.com> References: <24655DEF-122C-49B8-823A-356FFFA178C2@wacondatrader.com> Message-ID: <540D90D9-27DE-4C7A-8F95-42FC31162396@comcast.net> Thanks for sharing that link Joe. Quite frightening to us east- coasters. We had a tornado watch here on Saturday (S.E. Penna).... have had some within 15-20 miles of Philly, but nothing compared to what you guys get. We can't even handle 2" of snow without soiling our scivies! On Jun 2, 2008, at 1:48 PM, Joe Sporleder wrote: > Hey, > > Just letting everyone know we are still here, but we have been > dodging tornadoes a lot recently, and the Creator list is alive and > well. We've had them within 10 miles or so of our office here in > Beloit, Kansas. On the right hand side of the following website you > can see what we've been dealing with lately, including a video from > some professional storm chasers out of Tulsa Oklahoma. Their video > is of a tornado that touched down about 15 miles west of us near > Waconda Lake. > > http://www.kvsvradio.com/ > > Joe > _______________________________________________ > Creator mailing list > Creator@wacondatrader.com > http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator > > To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ > > Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ > > Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com From joe at wacondatrader.com Mon Jun 2 13:55:37 2008 From: joe at wacondatrader.com (Joe Sporleder) Date: Mon Jun 2 13:56:25 2008 Subject: Off Topic, Tornadoes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yeah, I remember seeing that on the news! What is it with you all getting tornadoes, that's supposed to be our forte! :-D Us Kansas folks sometimes have a discussion on whether we'd rather dodge a Kansas Tornado or deal with a California earthquake. I've never been in an earthquake, so I don't really know. Joe On Jun 2, 2008, at 1:32 PM, jkelly@pennysaverusa.com wrote: > We're OK, too, not that this was a disastrous tornado. But this is > Southern California! > > It did not touch down near any of our offices that I'm aware of, > but some > employees did witness it. > > http://weathercurrents.com/lakeelsinore/NewsItemDisplay.do?Id=477 > > ______________________ > Jerry Kelly > PennySaverUSA.com > (714) 577-4818 From alpenaads at thealpenanews.com Mon Jun 2 13:57:03 2008 From: alpenaads at thealpenanews.com (Alpena Ads) Date: Mon Jun 2 13:59:12 2008 Subject: Off Topic, Tornadoes In-Reply-To: <540D90D9-27DE-4C7A-8F95-42FC31162396@comcast.net> Message-ID: Glad to hear you weren't blown away. Northern MI doesn't see too many tornados, but 2" of snow is nothing. This was during deer season last year (Nov. 15-30) and that was only a foot http://cu.thealpenanews.com/user/member_gallery_photos.php?gallery=296809&co llection=2697 on 6/2/08 2:46 PM, Peter Stremic at peterpica@comcast.net wrote: > Thanks for sharing that link Joe. Quite frightening to us east- > coasters. We had a tornado watch here on Saturday (S.E. Penna).... > have had some within 15-20 miles of Philly, but nothing compared to > what you guys get. We can't even handle 2" of snow without soiling our > scivies! > > > On Jun 2, 2008, at 1:48 PM, Joe Sporleder wrote: > >> Hey, >> >> Just letting everyone know we are still here, but we have been >> dodging tornadoes a lot recently, and the Creator list is alive and >> well. We've had them within 10 miles or so of our office here in >> Beloit, Kansas. On the right hand side of the following website you >> can see what we've been dealing with lately, including a video from >> some professional storm chasers out of Tulsa Oklahoma. Their video >> is of a tornado that touched down about 15 miles west of us near >> Waconda Lake. >> >> http://www.kvsvradio.com/ >> >> Joe >> _______________________________________________ >> Creator mailing list >> Creator@wacondatrader.com >> http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator >> >> To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: >> http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ >> >> Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ >> >> Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: >> http://www.creatorsoftware.com > > _______________________________________________ > Creator mailing list > Creator@wacondatrader.com > http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator > > To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ > > Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ > > Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com > From alpenaads at thealpenanews.com Mon Jun 2 14:09:24 2008 From: alpenaads at thealpenanews.com (Alpena Ads) Date: Mon Jun 2 14:09:57 2008 Subject: Off Topic, Tornadoes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: oops bad link http://cu.thealpenanews.com/pages/gallery.php?gallery=296809 on 6/2/08 2:57 PM, Alpena Ads at alpenaads@thealpenanews.com wrote: > Glad to hear you weren't blown away. Northern MI doesn't see too many > tornados, but 2" of snow is nothing. This was during deer season last year > (Nov. 15-30) and that was only a foot > > http://cu.thealpenanews.com/user/member_gallery_photos.php?gallery=296809&co > llection=2697 > > > > on 6/2/08 2:46 PM, Peter Stremic at peterpica@comcast.net wrote: > >> Thanks for sharing that link Joe. Quite frightening to us east- >> coasters. We had a tornado watch here on Saturday (S.E. Penna).... >> have had some within 15-20 miles of Philly, but nothing compared to >> what you guys get. We can't even handle 2" of snow without soiling our >> scivies! >> >> >> On Jun 2, 2008, at 1:48 PM, Joe Sporleder wrote: >> >>> Hey, >>> >>> Just letting everyone know we are still here, but we have been >>> dodging tornadoes a lot recently, and the Creator list is alive and >>> well. We've had them within 10 miles or so of our office here in >>> Beloit, Kansas. On the right hand side of the following website you >>> can see what we've been dealing with lately, including a video from >>> some professional storm chasers out of Tulsa Oklahoma. Their video >>> is of a tornado that touched down about 15 miles west of us near >>> Waconda Lake. >>> >>> http://www.kvsvradio.com/ >>> >>> Joe >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Creator mailing list >>> Creator@wacondatrader.com >>> http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator >>> >>> To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: >>> http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ >>> >>> Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ >>> >>> Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: >>> http://www.creatorsoftware.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Creator mailing list >> Creator@wacondatrader.com >> http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator >> >> To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: >> http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ >> >> Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ >> >> Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: >> http://www.creatorsoftware.com >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Creator mailing list > Creator@wacondatrader.com > http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator > > To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ > > Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ > > Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com > From tim at thursts.com Tue Jun 3 20:03:06 2008 From: tim at thursts.com (Tim W Hurst) Date: Tue Jun 3 20:03:55 2008 Subject: Creator issue with Apple Chancery Message-ID: <4845E9CA.3010301@thursts.com> Hi, We recently upgraded to Leopard on Intel based Macs. We now find that the font Apple Chancery will no longer display or print properly in Creator. Any ideas? Thanks, Tim From smills at multi-ad.com Tue Jun 3 21:15:36 2008 From: smills at multi-ad.com (Steve Mills) Date: Tue Jun 3 21:16:14 2008 Subject: Creator issue with Apple Chancery In-Reply-To: <4845E9CA.3010301@thursts.com> References: <4845E9CA.3010301@thursts.com> Message-ID: On Jun 3, 2008, at 20:03:06, Tim W Hurst wrote: > We recently upgraded to Leopard on Intel based Macs. We now find > that the font > Apple Chancery will no longer display or print properly in Creator. That's a known issue. I'm very surprised that anybody actually uses Apple Chancery. You aren't using it professionally, are you? _________________________________________________________ Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 Senior Software Architect MultiAd smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com From dave.balderstone at producer.com Tue Jun 3 23:41:49 2008 From: dave.balderstone at producer.com (Dave Balderstone) Date: Tue Jun 3 23:42:53 2008 Subject: Creator issue with Apple Chancery In-Reply-To: References: <4845E9CA.3010301@thursts.com> Message-ID: <4CD16EB2-B91E-4E22-98C5-BB536BEC7504@producer.com> On 3-Jun-08, at 8:15 PM, Steve Mills wrote: > On Jun 3, 2008, at 20:03:06, Tim W Hurst wrote: > >> We recently upgraded to Leopard on Intel based Macs. We now find >> that the font >> Apple Chancery will no longer display or print properly in Creator. > > > That's a known issue. I'm very surprised that anybody actually uses > Apple Chancery. You aren't using it professionally, are you? Why not, Steve? You sound rather dismissive... What's the issue whereby Creator doesn't support that particular font, and what other fonts are "known issues"? From smills at multi-ad.com Wed Jun 4 08:23:27 2008 From: smills at multi-ad.com (Steve Mills) Date: Wed Jun 4 08:24:59 2008 Subject: Creator issue with Apple Chancery In-Reply-To: <4CD16EB2-B91E-4E22-98C5-BB536BEC7504@producer.com> References: <4845E9CA.3010301@thursts.com> <4CD16EB2-B91E-4E22-98C5-BB536BEC7504@producer.com> Message-ID: On Jun 3, 2008, at 23:41:49, Dave Balderstone wrote: > Why not, Steve? You sound rather dismissive... Because it's not what I'd consider a professional grade font, and because of the way it was designed, which leads to the bug. It also is not an attractive typeface and is way overused where it has no business being used, but that's my personal opinion. > What's the issue whereby Creator doesn't support that particular font, Apple Chancery has swashed glyphs for almost every character, to be used in certain cases, but the "standard" glyph for each character is the swashed version, rather than the unswashed version (which, IMO, would've been the correct way to design the font). So unless the text engine has knowledge of this, it won't be able to allow the *font* to choose the correct glyphs. The text engine in OS X, naturally, knows how to deal with this. Creator's does not. An upcoming version of Creator will handle this case for OpenType fonts, but not for this particular Apple font. > and what other fonts are "known issues"? Apple Chancery is the only one I'm aware of with this problem. _________________________________________________________ Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 Senior Software Architect MultiAd smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com From eric at ozarksfn.com Wed Jun 4 09:02:11 2008 From: eric at ozarksfn.com (Eric Tietze) Date: Wed Jun 4 09:03:03 2008 Subject: Creator issue with Apple Chancery In-Reply-To: References: <4845E9CA.3010301@thursts.com> <4CD16EB2-B91E-4E22-98C5-BB536BEC7504@producer.com> Message-ID: <4846A063.90406@ozarksfn.com> Is this the same problem that I'm having with Zapf Dingbats? I think I remember that font being mentioned before but don't remember the outcome. It works fine in all of the Creative Suite software, but not in Creator. Doesn't show up on screen, it does print just not always with the proper spacing. Is there a workaround? I have a couple versions of dingbats (not sure the differences, just know there are 2 different ones) and neither of them will work in Creator. Thanks Eric Tietze General Manager / Production Director Ozarks Farm & Neighbor 1-866-532-1960 - Fax: 417-532-4721 www.ozarksfn.com - eric@ozarksfn.com ---------------------------------------------- The Ozarks' most read farm newspaper. Now reaching more than 24,000 livestock-tax payers with Missouri and Arkansas editions. */Ask about Combo Discounts and Lower Contract Rates/* Steve Mills wrote: > On Jun 3, 2008, at 23:41:49, Dave Balderstone wrote: > >> Why not, Steve? You sound rather dismissive... > > Because it's not what I'd consider a professional grade font, and > because of the way it was designed, which leads to the bug. It also is > not an attractive typeface and is way overused where it has no > business being used, but that's my personal opinion. > >> What's the issue whereby Creator doesn't support that particular font, > > Apple Chancery has swashed glyphs for almost every character, to be > used in certain cases, but the "standard" glyph for each character is > the swashed version, rather than the unswashed version (which, IMO, > would've been the correct way to design the font). So unless the text > engine has knowledge of this, it won't be able to allow the *font* to > choose the correct glyphs. The text engine in OS X, naturally, knows > how to deal with this. Creator's does not. An upcoming version of > Creator will handle this case for OpenType fonts, but not for this > particular Apple font. > >> and what other fonts are "known issues"? > > > Apple Chancery is the only one I'm aware of with this problem. > > _________________________________________________________ > Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 > Senior Software Architect MultiAd > smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Creator mailing list > Creator@wacondatrader.com > http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator > > To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ > > Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ > > Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com > From smills at multi-ad.com Wed Jun 4 09:10:29 2008 From: smills at multi-ad.com (Steve Mills) Date: Wed Jun 4 09:11:50 2008 Subject: Creator issue with Apple Chancery In-Reply-To: <4846A063.90406@ozarksfn.com> References: <4845E9CA.3010301@thursts.com> <4CD16EB2-B91E-4E22-98C5-BB536BEC7504@producer.com> <4846A063.90406@ozarksfn.com> Message-ID: <1001495E-8A50-4BC9-B11F-F87DF9F60E38@multiad.com> On Jun 4, 2008, at 09:02:11, Eric Tietze wrote: > Is this the same problem that I'm having with Zapf Dingbats? I > think I remember that font being mentioned before but don't remember > the outcome. It works fine in all of the Creative Suite software, > but not in Creator. Doesn't show up on screen, it does print just > not always with the proper spacing. Is there a workaround? I have > a couple versions of dingbats (not sure the differences, just know > there are 2 different ones) and neither of them will work in Creator. I'm not aware of a Zapf Dingbats problem. Have you reported it through proper channels? What version of Creator are you running? Do you realize that you need to enter glyphs with the Character palette for most dingbat fonts under OS X? You can't simply type the old ASCII equivalents like you could in OS 9 and earlier. To answer your first question, this is not the same problem. _________________________________________________________ Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 Senior Software Architect MultiAd smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com From dave.balderstone at producer.com Wed Jun 4 09:22:11 2008 From: dave.balderstone at producer.com (Dave Balderstone) Date: Wed Jun 4 09:23:21 2008 Subject: Creator issue with Apple Chancery In-Reply-To: References: <4845E9CA.3010301@thursts.com> <4CD16EB2-B91E-4E22-98C5-BB536BEC7504@producer.com> Message-ID: <68E43FD5-016A-4E8D-BAA9-3643C5085433@producer.com> On 4-Jun-08, at 7:23 AM, Steve Mills wrote: > On Jun 3, 2008, at 23:41:49, Dave Balderstone wrote: > >> Why not, Steve? You sound rather dismissive... > > Because it's not what I'd consider a professional grade font, and > because of the way it was designed, which leads to the bug. It also > is not an attractive typeface and is way overused where it has no > business being used, but that's my personal opinion. I don't disagree with your opinion, there are a number of fonts that fit this category . >> What's the issue whereby Creator doesn't support that particular >> font, > > Apple Chancery has swashed glyphs for almost every character, to be > used in certain cases, but the "standard" glyph for each character > is the swashed version, rather than the unswashed version (which, > IMO, would've been the correct way to design the font). So unless > the text engine has knowledge of this, it won't be able to allow the > *font* to choose the correct glyphs. The text engine in OS X, > naturally, knows how to deal with this. Creator's does not. An > upcoming version of Creator will handle this case for OpenType > fonts, but not for this particular Apple font. That IS odd. I wasn't aware of it, thanks for the explanation. >> and what other fonts are "known issues"? > > > Apple Chancery is the only one I'm aware of with this problem. From eric at ozarksfn.com Wed Jun 4 10:58:12 2008 From: eric at ozarksfn.com (Eric Tietze) Date: Wed Jun 4 10:59:00 2008 Subject: Creator issue with Apple Chancery In-Reply-To: <1001495E-8A50-4BC9-B11F-F87DF9F60E38@multiad.com> References: <4845E9CA.3010301@thursts.com> <4CD16EB2-B91E-4E22-98C5-BB536BEC7504@producer.com> <4846A063.90406@ozarksfn.com> <1001495E-8A50-4BC9-B11F-F87DF9F60E38@multiad.com> Message-ID: <4846BB94.4040503@ozarksfn.com> I am running OS X 10.5.2 on dual intel mac with Creator 8.0.2 I actually hadn't tried the character pallet, that works but is kind of a hassle compared to just typing them normally. Typically (in os 10.4) i would simply type the number '4' and then set the font as dingbats and get a check mark. This still works in illustrator and indesign in os 10.5. Is this ability going to be returned to creator in the future? For now I can use the character pallet at least, just takes a bit longer. Thanks for the info, that will save me a lot of hassle compared to not being able to use them. Thanks Eric Tietze General Manager / Production Director Ozarks Farm & Neighbor 1-866-532-1960 - Fax: 417-532-4721 www.ozarksfn.com - eric@ozarksfn.com ---------------------------------------------- The Ozarks' most read farm newspaper. Now reaching more than 24,000 livestock-tax payers with Missouri and Arkansas editions. */Ask about Combo Discounts and Lower Contract Rates/* Steve Mills wrote: > On Jun 4, 2008, at 09:02:11, Eric Tietze wrote: > >> Is this the same problem that I'm having with Zapf Dingbats? I think >> I remember that font being mentioned before but don't remember the >> outcome. It works fine in all of the Creative Suite software, but >> not in Creator. Doesn't show up on screen, it does print just not >> always with the proper spacing. Is there a workaround? I have a >> couple versions of dingbats (not sure the differences, just know >> there are 2 different ones) and neither of them will work in Creator. > > > I'm not aware of a Zapf Dingbats problem. Have you reported it through > proper channels? What version of Creator are you running? Do you > realize that you need to enter glyphs with the Character palette for > most dingbat fonts under OS X? You can't simply type the old ASCII > equivalents like you could in OS 9 and earlier. > > To answer your first question, this is not the same problem. > > _________________________________________________________ > Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 > Senior Software Architect MultiAd > smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Creator mailing list > Creator@wacondatrader.com > http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator > > To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ > > Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ > > Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com > From brad-hsunads at hartcom.net Wed Jun 4 11:00:07 2008 From: brad-hsunads at hartcom.net (Brad Crocker) Date: Wed Jun 4 11:03:16 2008 Subject: Strange PDF header? problem Message-ID: <4846BC07.5060002@hartcom.net> We have a camera ready PDF ad that comes from a nearby car dealer. We have been running the same ad for weeks and it has always run correctly. Our camera ready PDF is placed on a Creator 7.0.6 document and then updated (cover up parts with boxes, retypeset things, etc. etc.) The new PDF is produced (Export EPS from Creator, Distiller 7.0 distills -> new PDF) and is then placed on an InDesign CS3 document, along with other ad PDFs and editorial content. A final PDF of the entire page is produced (Export EPS from InDesign, Distiller 7.0 distills ->final PDF) and that goes to rip, print... The ad we did last week was based on the original camera ready PDF, changes made, what appears to be a good PDF is distilled out of Creator, dropped in InDesign, final PDf produced. This week however, the PDF that comes from InDesign has "garbled", pixelly graphics in some instances. Some pictures on the ad are good, others look like white noise, pixelly filled outlines of those graphics. Our resident tech guru said this was a "PDF Header error". Said to take the Creator PDF, save as tiff and try again. Same result. When I place the Creator EPS (the one that was distilled), place that in InDesign and redistill, it works, graphics are right. Any suggestions on what went wrong, how we could avoid this? We could just start placing EPS instead of PDFs, but I hate to revamp our entire process because of one bad PDF. Plus EPSs take a little longer to place, process. Does this sound like a Creator, InDesign or Distiller issue? (I'm leaning toward the latter since the Creator EPS works). Any advice or suggestion would be greatly appreciated. Brad, The Hartwell Sun Composition Dept. From peterpica at comcast.net Wed Jun 4 11:19:08 2008 From: peterpica at comcast.net (Peter Stremic) Date: Wed Jun 4 11:19:50 2008 Subject: Strange PDF header? problem In-Reply-To: <4846BC07.5060002@hartcom.net> References: <4846BC07.5060002@hartcom.net> Message-ID: <0689AFA8-ADE0-42EB-8CA8-2337CBD3B37D@comcast.net> I thought InD had serious .eps import problems; Personally, I try to avoid .eps whenever using InD. On Jun 4, 2008, at 12:00 PM, Brad Crocker wrote: > We have a camera ready PDF ad that comes from a nearby car dealer. > We have been running the same ad for weeks and it has always run > correctly. > > Our camera ready PDF is placed on a Creator 7.0.6 document and then > updated (cover up parts with boxes, retypeset things, etc. etc.) The > new PDF is produced (Export EPS from Creator, Distiller 7.0 distills > -> new PDF) and is then placed on an InDesign CS3 document, along > with other ad PDFs and editorial content. A final PDF of the entire > page is produced (Export EPS from InDesign, Distiller 7.0 distills - > >final PDF) and that goes to rip, print... > > The ad we did last week was based on the original camera ready PDF, > changes made, what appears to be a good PDF is distilled out of > Creator, dropped in InDesign, final PDf produced. This week however, > the PDF that comes from InDesign has "garbled", pixelly graphics in > some instances. Some pictures on the ad are good, others look like > white noise, pixelly filled outlines of those graphics. > > Our resident tech guru said this was a "PDF Header error". Said to > take the Creator PDF, save as tiff and try again. Same result. When > I place the Creator EPS (the one that was distilled), place that in > InDesign and redistill, it works, graphics are right. > > Any suggestions on what went wrong, how we could avoid this? We > could just start placing EPS instead of PDFs, but I hate to revamp > our entire process because of one bad PDF. Plus EPSs take a little > longer to place, process. > > Does this sound like a Creator, InDesign or Distiller issue? (I'm > leaning toward the latter since the Creator EPS works). > > Any advice or suggestion would be greatly appreciated. > > Brad, > The Hartwell Sun Composition Dept. > _______________________________________________ > Creator mailing list > Creator@wacondatrader.com > http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator > > To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ > > Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ > > Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com From dave.balderstone at producer.com Wed Jun 4 11:20:59 2008 From: dave.balderstone at producer.com (Dave Balderstone) Date: Wed Jun 4 11:22:44 2008 Subject: Creator issue with Apple Chancery In-Reply-To: <1001495E-8A50-4BC9-B11F-F87DF9F60E38@multiad.com> References: <4845E9CA.3010301@thursts.com> <4CD16EB2-B91E-4E22-98C5-BB536BEC7504@producer.com> <4846A063.90406@ozarksfn.com> <1001495E-8A50-4BC9-B11F-F87DF9F60E38@multiad.com> Message-ID: <847B6512-6C92-49E0-80DC-C06F1254B25F@producer.com> On 4-Jun-08, at 8:10 AM, Steve Mills wrote: > Do you realize that you need to enter glyphs with the Character > palette for most dingbat fonts under OS X? You can't simply type the > old ASCII equivalents like you could in OS 9 and earlier. Huh? I certainly can, at least in InDesign, Illustrator, Word, Excel... From gazetteads_rob at ohio.net Wed Jun 4 12:54:38 2008 From: gazetteads_rob at ohio.net (Rob Briggs) Date: Wed Jun 4 12:58:07 2008 Subject: Strange PDF header? problem References: <4846BC07.5060002@hartcom.net> Message-ID: <012d01c8c66c$0ebf6110$9c01a8c0@Medina.local> We employ a similar procees with Creator/Quark. My first suspicion would be with the original "camera ready" PDF. Did someone different send it? Were the same settings/programs used to make it? Remove the PDF form the Creator doc and re-export. If it processes OK there is something wrong with that file. If not, it is a graphic or font in Creator screwing things up. Rob Briggs Production Supervisor The Medina County Gazette 330.721.4081 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Crocker" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 12:00 PM Subject: Strange PDF header? problem > We have a camera ready PDF ad that comes from a nearby car dealer. We > have been running the same ad for weeks and it has always run correctly. > > Our camera ready PDF is placed on a Creator 7.0.6 document and then > updated (cover up parts with boxes, retypeset things, etc. etc.) The new > PDF is produced (Export EPS from Creator, Distiller 7.0 distills -> new > PDF) and is then placed on an InDesign CS3 document, along with other ad > PDFs and editorial content. A final PDF of the entire page is produced > (Export EPS from InDesign, Distiller 7.0 distills ->final PDF) and that > goes to rip, print... > > The ad we did last week was based on the original camera ready PDF, > changes made, what appears to be a good PDF is distilled out of Creator, > dropped in InDesign, final PDf produced. This week however, the PDF that > comes from InDesign has "garbled", pixelly graphics in some instances. > Some pictures on the ad are good, others look like white noise, pixelly > filled outlines of those graphics. > > Our resident tech guru said this was a "PDF Header error". Said to take > the Creator PDF, save as tiff and try again. Same result. When I place > the Creator EPS (the one that was distilled), place that in InDesign and > redistill, it works, graphics are right. > > Any suggestions on what went wrong, how we could avoid this? We could > just start placing EPS instead of PDFs, but I hate to revamp our entire > process because of one bad PDF. Plus EPSs take a little longer to place, > process. > > Does this sound like a Creator, InDesign or Distiller issue? (I'm > leaning toward the latter since the Creator EPS works). > > Any advice or suggestion would be greatly appreciated. > > Brad, > The Hartwell Sun Composition Dept. > _______________________________________________ > Creator mailing list > Creator@wacondatrader.com > http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator > > To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ > > Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ > > Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com > From smills at multi-ad.com Wed Jun 4 13:14:27 2008 From: smills at multi-ad.com (Steve Mills) Date: Wed Jun 4 13:16:17 2008 Subject: Creator issue with Apple Chancery In-Reply-To: <847B6512-6C92-49E0-80DC-C06F1254B25F@producer.com> References: <4845E9CA.3010301@thursts.com> <4CD16EB2-B91E-4E22-98C5-BB536BEC7504@producer.com> <4846A063.90406@ozarksfn.com> <1001495E-8A50-4BC9-B11F-F87DF9F60E38@multiad.com> <847B6512-6C92-49E0-80DC-C06F1254B25F@producer.com> Message-ID: <1CA5BC5D-A6D3-4B12-BFD7-FFE9EC245CA2@multiad.com> On Jun 4, 2008, at 11:20:59, Dave Balderstone wrote: > I certainly can, at least in InDesign, Illustrator, Word, Excel... Yes, but not in apps like Creator or Apple apps like TextEdit or any app that uses Apple's text editor technology like iWeb. Are you using old versions of those apps? If not, then they went to the trouble of creating tables to convert the ASCII keystrokes to the old glyph equivalents for at least that dingbat font. _________________________________________________________ Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 Senior Software Architect MultiAd smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com From brad-hsunads at hartcom.net Wed Jun 4 13:24:54 2008 From: brad-hsunads at hartcom.net (Brad Crocker) Date: Wed Jun 4 13:30:44 2008 Subject: Strange PDF header? problem In-Reply-To: <012d01c8c66c$0ebf6110$9c01a8c0@Medina.local> References: <4846BC07.5060002@hartcom.net> <012d01c8c66c$0ebf6110$9c01a8c0@Medina.local> Message-ID: <4846DDF6.8040308@hartcom.net> I'm not ruling out that the original PDF might be bad because it was created by a competing paper that is NOTORIOUS for releasing bad work. The thing I don't understand is why does it work 99 times, then the 100th time messes up and every time following the 100th gives the same result. Something has changed, but it is not the original PDF. (Maybe some circumstance that "brought out" the bad post scripting on the 100th try?) Perplexed, The Sun Crew Rob Briggs wrote: > We employ a similar procees with Creator/Quark. > My first suspicion would be with the original "camera ready" PDF. > Did someone different send it? > Were the same settings/programs used to make it? > Remove the PDF form the Creator doc and re-export. > If it processes OK there is something wrong with that file. > If not, it is a graphic or font in Creator screwing things up. > > Rob Briggs > Production Supervisor > The Medina County Gazette > 330.721.4081 > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Crocker" > > To: > Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 12:00 PM > Subject: Strange PDF header? problem > > >> We have a camera ready PDF ad that comes from a nearby car dealer. We >> have been running the same ad for weeks and it has always run correctly. >> >> Our camera ready PDF is placed on a Creator 7.0.6 document and then >> updated (cover up parts with boxes, retypeset things, etc. etc.) The >> new PDF is produced (Export EPS from Creator, Distiller 7.0 distills >> -> new PDF) and is then placed on an InDesign CS3 document, along >> with other ad PDFs and editorial content. A final PDF of the entire >> page is produced (Export EPS from InDesign, Distiller 7.0 distills >> ->final PDF) and that goes to rip, print... >> >> The ad we did last week was based on the original camera ready PDF, >> changes made, what appears to be a good PDF is distilled out of >> Creator, dropped in InDesign, final PDf produced. This week however, >> the PDF that comes from InDesign has "garbled", pixelly graphics in >> some instances. Some pictures on the ad are good, others look like >> white noise, pixelly filled outlines of those graphics. >> >> Our resident tech guru said this was a "PDF Header error". Said to >> take the Creator PDF, save as tiff and try again. Same result. When I >> place the Creator EPS (the one that was distilled), place that in >> InDesign and redistill, it works, graphics are right. >> >> Any suggestions on what went wrong, how we could avoid this? We could >> just start placing EPS instead of PDFs, but I hate to revamp our >> entire process because of one bad PDF. Plus EPSs take a little longer >> to place, process. >> >> Does this sound like a Creator, InDesign or Distiller issue? (I'm >> leaning toward the latter since the Creator EPS works). >> >> Any advice or suggestion would be greatly appreciated. >> >> Brad, >> The Hartwell Sun Composition Dept. >> _______________________________________________ >> Creator mailing list >> Creator@wacondatrader.com >> http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator >> >> To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: >> http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ >> >> Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ >> >> Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: >> http://www.creatorsoftware.com >> > _______________________________________________ > Creator mailing list > Creator@wacondatrader.com > http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator > > To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ > > Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ > > Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com > From gazetteads_rob at ohio.net Wed Jun 4 13:37:00 2008 From: gazetteads_rob at ohio.net (Rob Briggs) Date: Wed Jun 4 13:40:30 2008 Subject: Strange PDF header? problem References: <4846BC07.5060002@hartcom.net><012d01c8c66c$0ebf6110$9c01a8c0@Medina.local> <4846DDF6.8040308@hartcom.net> Message-ID: <015801c8c671$f99ed800$9c01a8c0@Medina.local> Such is life in the digital age. We've had plenty of "camera ready" PDF files that have taken longer to output correctly than it would to have totally rebuild the ad. Rob Briggs Production Supervisor The Medina County Gazette 330.721.4081 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Crocker" To: "Rob Briggs" ; Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 2:24 PM Subject: Re: Strange PDF header? problem > I'm not ruling out that the original PDF might be bad because it was > created by a competing paper that is NOTORIOUS for releasing bad work. The > thing I don't understand is why does it work 99 times, then the 100th time > messes up and every time following the 100th gives the same result. > Something has changed, but it is not the original PDF. (Maybe some > circumstance that "brought out" the bad post scripting on the 100th try?) > > Perplexed, > The Sun Crew > > Rob Briggs wrote: >> We employ a similar procees with Creator/Quark. >> My first suspicion would be with the original "camera ready" PDF. >> Did someone different send it? >> Were the same settings/programs used to make it? >> Remove the PDF form the Creator doc and re-export. >> If it processes OK there is something wrong with that file. >> If not, it is a graphic or font in Creator screwing things up. >> >> Rob Briggs >> Production Supervisor >> The Medina County Gazette >> 330.721.4081 >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Crocker" >> >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 12:00 PM >> Subject: Strange PDF header? problem >> >> >>> We have a camera ready PDF ad that comes from a nearby car dealer. We >>> have been running the same ad for weeks and it has always run correctly. >>> >>> Our camera ready PDF is placed on a Creator 7.0.6 document and then >>> updated (cover up parts with boxes, retypeset things, etc. etc.) The new >>> PDF is produced (Export EPS from Creator, Distiller 7.0 distills -> new >>> PDF) and is then placed on an InDesign CS3 document, along with other ad >>> PDFs and editorial content. A final PDF of the entire page is produced >>> (Export EPS from InDesign, Distiller 7.0 distills ->final PDF) and that >>> goes to rip, print... >>> >>> The ad we did last week was based on the original camera ready PDF, >>> changes made, what appears to be a good PDF is distilled out of Creator, >>> dropped in InDesign, final PDf produced. This week however, the PDF that >>> comes from InDesign has "garbled", pixelly graphics in some instances. >>> Some pictures on the ad are good, others look like white noise, pixelly >>> filled outlines of those graphics. >>> >>> Our resident tech guru said this was a "PDF Header error". Said to take >>> the Creator PDF, save as tiff and try again. Same result. When I place >>> the Creator EPS (the one that was distilled), place that in InDesign and >>> redistill, it works, graphics are right. >>> >>> Any suggestions on what went wrong, how we could avoid this? We could >>> just start placing EPS instead of PDFs, but I hate to revamp our entire >>> process because of one bad PDF. Plus EPSs take a little longer to place, >>> process. >>> >>> Does this sound like a Creator, InDesign or Distiller issue? (I'm >>> leaning toward the latter since the Creator EPS works). >>> >>> Any advice or suggestion would be greatly appreciated. >>> >>> Brad, >>> The Hartwell Sun Composition Dept. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Creator mailing list >>> Creator@wacondatrader.com >>> http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator >>> >>> To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: >>> http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ >>> >>> Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ >>> >>> Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: >>> http://www.creatorsoftware.com >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Creator mailing list >> Creator@wacondatrader.com >> http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator >> >> To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: >> http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ >> >> Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ >> >> Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: >> http://www.creatorsoftware.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > Creator mailing list > Creator@wacondatrader.com > http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator > > To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ > > Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ > > Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com > From peterpica at comcast.net Wed Jun 4 13:43:08 2008 From: peterpica at comcast.net (Peter Stremic) Date: Wed Jun 4 13:44:32 2008 Subject: Strange PDF header? problem In-Reply-To: <4846DDF6.8040308@hartcom.net> References: <4846BC07.5060002@hartcom.net> <012d01c8c66c$0ebf6110$9c01a8c0@Medina.local> <4846DDF6.8040308@hartcom.net> Message-ID: <9A6B22C5-057D-494A-B8BD-5EAC8C5C5E2F@comcast.net> Want to send problem PDF? I'd like to look at it. peterpica@comcast.net On Jun 4, 2008, at 2:24 PM, Brad Crocker wrote: > I'm not ruling out that the original PDF might be bad because it was > created by a competing paper that is NOTORIOUS for releasing bad > work. The thing I don't understand is why does it work 99 times, > then the 100th time messes up and every time following the 100th > gives the same result. Something has changed, but it is not the > original PDF. (Maybe some circumstance that "brought out" the bad > post scripting on the 100th try?) > > Perplexed, > The Sun Crew > > Rob Briggs wrote: >> We employ a similar procees with Creator/Quark. >> My first suspicion would be with the original "camera ready" PDF. >> Did someone different send it? >> Were the same settings/programs used to make it? >> Remove the PDF form the Creator doc and re-export. >> If it processes OK there is something wrong with that file. >> If not, it is a graphic or font in Creator screwing things up. >> >> Rob Briggs >> Production Supervisor >> The Medina County Gazette >> 330.721.4081 >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Crocker" > > >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 12:00 PM >> Subject: Strange PDF header? problem >> >> >>> We have a camera ready PDF ad that comes from a nearby car dealer. >>> We have been running the same ad for weeks and it has always run >>> correctly. >>> >>> Our camera ready PDF is placed on a Creator 7.0.6 document and >>> then updated (cover up parts with boxes, retypeset things, etc. >>> etc.) The new PDF is produced (Export EPS from Creator, Distiller >>> 7.0 distills -> new PDF) and is then placed on an InDesign CS3 >>> document, along with other ad PDFs and editorial content. A final >>> PDF of the entire page is produced (Export EPS from InDesign, >>> Distiller 7.0 distills ->final PDF) and that goes to rip, print... >>> >>> The ad we did last week was based on the original camera ready >>> PDF, changes made, what appears to be a good PDF is distilled out >>> of Creator, dropped in InDesign, final PDf produced. This week >>> however, the PDF that comes from InDesign has "garbled", pixelly >>> graphics in some instances. Some pictures on the ad are good, >>> others look like white noise, pixelly filled outlines of those >>> graphics. >>> >>> Our resident tech guru said this was a "PDF Header error". Said to >>> take the Creator PDF, save as tiff and try again. Same result. >>> When I place the Creator EPS (the one that was distilled), place >>> that in InDesign and redistill, it works, graphics are right. >>> >>> Any suggestions on what went wrong, how we could avoid this? We >>> could just start placing EPS instead of PDFs, but I hate to revamp >>> our entire process because of one bad PDF. Plus EPSs take a little >>> longer to place, process. >>> >>> Does this sound like a Creator, InDesign or Distiller issue? (I'm >>> leaning toward the latter since the Creator EPS works). >>> >>> Any advice or suggestion would be greatly appreciated. >>> >>> Brad, >>> The Hartwell Sun Composition Dept. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Creator mailing list >>> Creator@wacondatrader.com >>> http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator >>> >>> To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: >>> http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ >>> >>> Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ >>> >>> Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: >>> http://www.creatorsoftware.com >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Creator mailing list >> Creator@wacondatrader.com >> http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator >> >> To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: >> http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ >> >> Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ >> >> Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: >> http://www.creatorsoftware.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > Creator mailing list > Creator@wacondatrader.com > http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator > > To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ > > Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ > > Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com From dave.balderstone at producer.com Wed Jun 4 13:50:56 2008 From: dave.balderstone at producer.com (Dave Balderstone) Date: Wed Jun 4 13:52:18 2008 Subject: Creator issue with Apple Chancery In-Reply-To: <1CA5BC5D-A6D3-4B12-BFD7-FFE9EC245CA2@multiad.com> References: <4845E9CA.3010301@thursts.com> <4CD16EB2-B91E-4E22-98C5-BB536BEC7504@producer.com> <4846A063.90406@ozarksfn.com> <1001495E-8A50-4BC9-B11F-F87DF9F60E38@multiad.com> <847B6512-6C92-49E0-80DC-C06F1254B25F@producer.com> <1CA5BC5D-A6D3-4B12-BFD7-FFE9EC245CA2@multiad.com> Message-ID: <19C13ECC-4B86-4018-820B-3D7AFA6F81D8@producer.com> On 4-Jun-08, at 12:14 PM, Steve Mills wrote: > On Jun 4, 2008, at 11:20:59, Dave Balderstone wrote: > >> I certainly can, at least in InDesign, Illustrator, Word, Excel... > > > Yes, but not in apps like Creator or Apple apps like TextEdit or any > app that uses Apple's text editor technology like iWeb. Are you > using old versions of those apps? No. > If not, then they went to the trouble of creating tables to convert > the ASCII keystrokes to the old glyph equivalents for at least that > dingbat font. To preserve user expectations of how the app SHOULD behave. Pity it was too much trouble for others. From brad-hsunads at hartcom.net Wed Jun 4 13:54:48 2008 From: brad-hsunads at hartcom.net (Brad Crocker) Date: Wed Jun 4 14:07:11 2008 Subject: Strange PDF header? problem In-Reply-To: <9A6B22C5-057D-494A-B8BD-5EAC8C5C5E2F@comcast.net> References: <4846BC07.5060002@hartcom.net> <012d01c8c66c$0ebf6110$9c01a8c0@Medina.local> <4846DDF6.8040308@hartcom.net> <9A6B22C5-057D-494A-B8BD-5EAC8C5C5E2F@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4846E4F8.7070200@hartcom.net> Sure - I've sent it to your email. Thanks, Brad Peter Stremic wrote: > Want to send problem PDF? > > I'd like to look at it. > > peterpica@comcast.net > > > On Jun 4, 2008, at 2:24 PM, Brad Crocker wrote: > >> I'm not ruling out that the original PDF might be bad because it was >> created by a competing paper that is NOTORIOUS for releasing bad >> work. The thing I don't understand is why does it work 99 times, then >> the 100th time messes up and every time following the 100th gives the >> same result. Something has changed, but it is not the original PDF. >> (Maybe some circumstance that "brought out" the bad post scripting on >> the 100th try?) >> >> Perplexed, >> The Sun Crew >> >> Rob Briggs wrote: >>> We employ a similar procees with Creator/Quark. >>> My first suspicion would be with the original "camera ready" PDF. >>> Did someone different send it? >>> Were the same settings/programs used to make it? >>> Remove the PDF form the Creator doc and re-export. >>> If it processes OK there is something wrong with that file. >>> If not, it is a graphic or font in Creator screwing things up. >>> >>> Rob Briggs >>> Production Supervisor >>> The Medina County Gazette >>> 330.721.4081 >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Crocker" >>> >>> To: >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 12:00 PM >>> Subject: Strange PDF header? problem >>> >>> >>>> We have a camera ready PDF ad that comes from a nearby car dealer. >>>> We have been running the same ad for weeks and it has always run >>>> correctly. >>>> >>>> Our camera ready PDF is placed on a Creator 7.0.6 document and then >>>> updated (cover up parts with boxes, retypeset things, etc. etc.) >>>> The new PDF is produced (Export EPS from Creator, Distiller 7.0 >>>> distills -> new PDF) and is then placed on an InDesign CS3 >>>> document, along with other ad PDFs and editorial content. A final >>>> PDF of the entire page is produced (Export EPS from InDesign, >>>> Distiller 7.0 distills ->final PDF) and that goes to rip, print... >>>> >>>> The ad we did last week was based on the original camera ready PDF, >>>> changes made, what appears to be a good PDF is distilled out of >>>> Creator, dropped in InDesign, final PDf produced. This week >>>> however, the PDF that comes from InDesign has "garbled", pixelly >>>> graphics in some instances. Some pictures on the ad are good, >>>> others look like white noise, pixelly filled outlines of those >>>> graphics. >>>> >>>> Our resident tech guru said this was a "PDF Header error". Said to >>>> take the Creator PDF, save as tiff and try again. Same result. When >>>> I place the Creator EPS (the one that was distilled), place that in >>>> InDesign and redistill, it works, graphics are right. >>>> >>>> Any suggestions on what went wrong, how we could avoid this? We >>>> could just start placing EPS instead of PDFs, but I hate to revamp >>>> our entire process because of one bad PDF. Plus EPSs take a little >>>> longer to place, process. >>>> >>>> Does this sound like a Creator, InDesign or Distiller issue? (I'm >>>> leaning toward the latter since the Creator EPS works). >>>> >>>> Any advice or suggestion would be greatly appreciated. >>>> >>>> Brad, >>>> The Hartwell Sun Composition Dept. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Creator mailing list >>>> Creator@wacondatrader.com >>>> http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator >>>> >>>> To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: >>>> http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ >>>> >>>> Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ >>>> >>>> Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: >>>> http://www.creatorsoftware.com >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Creator mailing list >>> Creator@wacondatrader.com >>> http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator >>> >>> To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: >>> http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ >>> >>> Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ >>> >>> Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: >>> http://www.creatorsoftware.com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Creator mailing list >> Creator@wacondatrader.com >> http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator >> >> To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: >> http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ >> >> Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ >> >> Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: >> http://www.creatorsoftware.com > > _______________________________________________ > Creator mailing list > Creator@wacondatrader.com > http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator > > To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ > > Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ > > Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com > From smills at multi-ad.com Wed Jun 4 14:00:44 2008 From: smills at multi-ad.com (Steve Mills) Date: Wed Jun 4 14:11:46 2008 Subject: Creator issue with Apple Chancery In-Reply-To: <19C13ECC-4B86-4018-820B-3D7AFA6F81D8@producer.com> References: <4845E9CA.3010301@thursts.com> <4CD16EB2-B91E-4E22-98C5-BB536BEC7504@producer.com> <4846A063.90406@ozarksfn.com> <1001495E-8A50-4BC9-B11F-F87DF9F60E38@multiad.com> <847B6512-6C92-49E0-80DC-C06F1254B25F@producer.com> <1CA5BC5D-A6D3-4B12-BFD7-FFE9EC245CA2@multiad.com> <19C13ECC-4B86-4018-820B-3D7AFA6F81D8@producer.com> Message-ID: <9BE3C64D-4B9C-47F4-A559-A541A6EF315A@multiad.com> On Jun 4, 2008, at 13:50:56, Dave Balderstone wrote: > To preserve user expectations of how the app SHOULD behave. Pity it > was too much trouble for others. It boils down to the old way of doing things vs. the new way. For all you people who use Zapf Dingbats and other such fonts on a daily basis that know the keystrokes to produce certain glyphs by heart, please submit feature requests. The more noise you make, the better the chance that we'll add a workaround for doing it the old way. _________________________________________________________ Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 Senior Software Architect MultiAd smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com From brad-hsunads at hartcom.net Wed Jun 4 14:08:36 2008 From: brad-hsunads at hartcom.net (Brad Crocker) Date: Wed Jun 4 14:20:51 2008 Subject: Strange PDF header? problem In-Reply-To: <9A6B22C5-057D-494A-B8BD-5EAC8C5C5E2F@comcast.net> References: <4846BC07.5060002@hartcom.net> <012d01c8c66c$0ebf6110$9c01a8c0@Medina.local> <4846DDF6.8040308@hartcom.net> <9A6B22C5-057D-494A-B8BD-5EAC8C5C5E2F@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4846E834.5040704@hartcom.net> Sorry Peter, should have reduced the file size. NOW check your email! Thanks, Brad Peter Stremic wrote: > Want to send problem PDF? > > I'd like to look at it. > > peterpica@comcast.net > > > On Jun 4, 2008, at 2:24 PM, Brad Crocker wrote: > >> I'm not ruling out that the original PDF might be bad because it was >> created by a competing paper that is NOTORIOUS for releasing bad >> work. The thing I don't understand is why does it work 99 times, then >> the 100th time messes up and every time following the 100th gives the >> same result. Something has changed, but it is not the original PDF. >> (Maybe some circumstance that "brought out" the bad post scripting on >> the 100th try?) >> >> Perplexed, >> The Sun Crew >> >> Rob Briggs wrote: >>> We employ a similar procees with Creator/Quark. >>> My first suspicion would be with the original "camera ready" PDF. >>> Did someone different send it? >>> Were the same settings/programs used to make it? >>> Remove the PDF form the Creator doc and re-export. >>> If it processes OK there is something wrong with that file. >>> If not, it is a graphic or font in Creator screwing things up. >>> >>> Rob Briggs >>> Production Supervisor >>> The Medina County Gazette >>> 330.721.4081 >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Crocker" >>> >>> To: >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 12:00 PM >>> Subject: Strange PDF header? problem >>> >>> >>>> We have a camera ready PDF ad that comes from a nearby car dealer. >>>> We have been running the same ad for weeks and it has always run >>>> correctly. >>>> >>>> Our camera ready PDF is placed on a Creator 7.0.6 document and then >>>> updated (cover up parts with boxes, retypeset things, etc. etc.) >>>> The new PDF is produced (Export EPS from Creator, Distiller 7.0 >>>> distills -> new PDF) and is then placed on an InDesign CS3 >>>> document, along with other ad PDFs and editorial content. A final >>>> PDF of the entire page is produced (Export EPS from InDesign, >>>> Distiller 7.0 distills ->final PDF) and that goes to rip, print... >>>> >>>> The ad we did last week was based on the original camera ready PDF, >>>> changes made, what appears to be a good PDF is distilled out of >>>> Creator, dropped in InDesign, final PDf produced. This week >>>> however, the PDF that comes from InDesign has "garbled", pixelly >>>> graphics in some instances. Some pictures on the ad are good, >>>> others look like white noise, pixelly filled outlines of those >>>> graphics. >>>> >>>> Our resident tech guru said this was a "PDF Header error". Said to >>>> take the Creator PDF, save as tiff and try again. Same result. When >>>> I place the Creator EPS (the one that was distilled), place that in >>>> InDesign and redistill, it works, graphics are right. >>>> >>>> Any suggestions on what went wrong, how we could avoid this? We >>>> could just start placing EPS instead of PDFs, but I hate to revamp >>>> our entire process because of one bad PDF. Plus EPSs take a little >>>> longer to place, process. >>>> >>>> Does this sound like a Creator, InDesign or Distiller issue? (I'm >>>> leaning toward the latter since the Creator EPS works). >>>> >>>> Any advice or suggestion would be greatly appreciated. >>>> >>>> Brad, >>>> The Hartwell Sun Composition Dept. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Creator mailing list >>>> Creator@wacondatrader.com >>>> http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator >>>> >>>> To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: >>>> http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ >>>> >>>> Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ >>>> >>>> Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: >>>> http://www.creatorsoftware.com >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Creator mailing list >>> Creator@wacondatrader.com >>> http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator >>> >>> To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: >>> http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ >>> >>> Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ >>> >>> Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: >>> http://www.creatorsoftware.com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Creator mailing list >> Creator@wacondatrader.com >> http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator >> >> To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: >> http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ >> >> Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ >> >> Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: >> http://www.creatorsoftware.com > > _______________________________________________ > Creator mailing list > Creator@wacondatrader.com > http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator > > To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ > > Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ > > Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com > From lzindler at somdnews.com Wed Jun 4 14:14:48 2008 From: lzindler at somdnews.com (Zindler, Lynn) Date: Wed Jun 4 14:25:35 2008 Subject: Strange PDF header? problem In-Reply-To: <9A6B22C5-057D-494A-B8BD-5EAC8C5C5E2F@comcast.net> References: <4846BC07.5060002@hartcom.net> <012d01c8c66c$0ebf6110$9c01a8c0@Medina.local> <4846DDF6.8040308@hartcom.net> <9A6B22C5-057D-494A-B8BD-5EAC8C5C5E2F@comcast.net> Message-ID: Do y'all use a program to preflight your pdfs? We use a program called Speedflow and it can be setup to change color, photo resolution etc. to what it needs to be for newsprint. When we get a pdf from an outside client we run it thru Speedflow and then put it into Creator. We are on a pc platform. -Just a few thoughts Lynn Zindler -----Original Message----- From: creator-bounces@wacondatrader.com [mailto:creator-bounces@wacondatrader.com] On Behalf Of Peter Stremic Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 2:43 PM To: creator@wacondatrader.com Subject: Re: Strange PDF header? problem Want to send problem PDF? I'd like to look at it. peterpica@comcast.net On Jun 4, 2008, at 2:24 PM, Brad Crocker wrote: > I'm not ruling out that the original PDF might be bad because it was > created by a competing paper that is NOTORIOUS for releasing bad > work. The thing I don't understand is why does it work 99 times, > then the 100th time messes up and every time following the 100th > gives the same result. Something has changed, but it is not the > original PDF. (Maybe some circumstance that "brought out" the bad > post scripting on the 100th try?) > > Perplexed, > The Sun Crew > > Rob Briggs wrote: >> We employ a similar procees with Creator/Quark. >> My first suspicion would be with the original "camera ready" PDF. >> Did someone different send it? >> Were the same settings/programs used to make it? >> Remove the PDF form the Creator doc and re-export. >> If it processes OK there is something wrong with that file. >> If not, it is a graphic or font in Creator screwing things up. >> >> Rob Briggs >> Production Supervisor >> The Medina County Gazette >> 330.721.4081 >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Crocker" > > >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 12:00 PM >> Subject: Strange PDF header? problem >> >> >>> We have a camera ready PDF ad that comes from a nearby car dealer. >>> We have been running the same ad for weeks and it has always run >>> correctly. >>> >>> Our camera ready PDF is placed on a Creator 7.0.6 document and >>> then updated (cover up parts with boxes, retypeset things, etc. >>> etc.) The new PDF is produced (Export EPS from Creator, Distiller >>> 7.0 distills -> new PDF) and is then placed on an InDesign CS3 >>> document, along with other ad PDFs and editorial content. A final >>> PDF of the entire page is produced (Export EPS from InDesign, >>> Distiller 7.0 distills ->final PDF) and that goes to rip, print... >>> >>> The ad we did last week was based on the original camera ready >>> PDF, changes made, what appears to be a good PDF is distilled out >>> of Creator, dropped in InDesign, final PDf produced. This week >>> however, the PDF that comes from InDesign has "garbled", pixelly >>> graphics in some instances. Some pictures on the ad are good, >>> others look like white noise, pixelly filled outlines of those >>> graphics. >>> >>> Our resident tech guru said this was a "PDF Header error". Said to >>> take the Creator PDF, save as tiff and try again. Same result. >>> When I place the Creator EPS (the one that was distilled), place >>> that in InDesign and redistill, it works, graphics are right. >>> >>> Any suggestions on what went wrong, how we could avoid this? We >>> could just start placing EPS instead of PDFs, but I hate to revamp >>> our entire process because of one bad PDF. Plus EPSs take a little >>> longer to place, process. >>> >>> Does this sound like a Creator, InDesign or Distiller issue? (I'm >>> leaning toward the latter since the Creator EPS works). >>> >>> Any advice or suggestion would be greatly appreciated. >>> >>> Brad, >>> The Hartwell Sun Composition Dept. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Creator mailing list >>> Creator@wacondatrader.com >>> http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator >>> >>> To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: >>> http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ >>> >>> Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ >>> >>> Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: >>> http://www.creatorsoftware.com >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Creator mailing list >> Creator@wacondatrader.com >> http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator >> >> To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: >> http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ >> >> Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ >> >> Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: >> http://www.creatorsoftware.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > Creator mailing list > Creator@wacondatrader.com > http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator > > To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ > > Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ > > Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com _______________________________________________ Creator mailing list Creator@wacondatrader.com http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: http://www.creatorsoftware.com From bdickerson at multi-ad.com Wed Jun 4 14:32:15 2008 From: bdickerson at multi-ad.com (Brian Dickerson) Date: Wed Jun 4 14:38:59 2008 Subject: Creator 8.0.3 Beta 58 Now Available Message-ID: <58C897AF-25EA-450D-B87F-832B93C4C197@multiad.com> The Creator Professional 8.0.3 Beta 58 is now available for public beta testing. Anyone who is interested in previewing Creator Professional 8.0.3 may access the installers at http://www.creatorsoftware.com/partners/beta_testers/ . Click on the Application Download link, then click the link for Macintosh or Windows. B58 will expire on July 19th. A complete list of major improvements made since Creator Professional 8.0.2 is available on the Application Download page. Please report any bugs or suggestions using the Feedback Report. In order to be considered in our development cycle, all bugs and suggestions should be reported by completing this form. We appreciate your feedback! ________________________ Brian Dickerson VP of Operations bdickerson@multiad.com 309-690-5306 MultiAd One company, Many solutions From brad-hsunads at hartcom.net Wed Jun 4 14:34:26 2008 From: brad-hsunads at hartcom.net (Brad Crocker) Date: Wed Jun 4 14:42:19 2008 Subject: Strange PDF header? problem In-Reply-To: References: <4846BC07.5060002@hartcom.net> <012d01c8c66c$0ebf6110$9c01a8c0@Medina.local> <4846DDF6.8040308@hartcom.net> <9A6B22C5-057D-494A-B8BD-5EAC8C5C5E2F@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4846EE42.4040705@hartcom.net> I just preflighted it in InDesign and Acrobat, but no real red flags popped up. I did notice in Acrobat that it had PDF/x label missing or incorrect, but I've never let that one stop me from sending a page. I think that pops up when we distill a page whose file name changes from the original document to what we label it for sorting purposes, but I could be completely wrong about what it means. Zindler, Lynn wrote: > Do y'all use a program to preflight your pdfs? We use a program called Speedflow and it can be setup to change color, photo resolution etc. to what it needs to be for newsprint. When we get a pdf from an outside client we run it thru Speedflow and then put it into Creator. We are on a pc platform. > -Just a few thoughts > Lynn Zindler > > -----Original Message----- > From: creator-bounces@wacondatrader.com [mailto:creator-bounces@wacondatrader.com] On Behalf Of Peter Stremic > Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 2:43 PM > To: creator@wacondatrader.com > Subject: Re: Strange PDF header? problem > > Want to send problem PDF? > > I'd like to look at it. > > peterpica@comcast.net > > > On Jun 4, 2008, at 2:24 PM, Brad Crocker wrote: > > >> I'm not ruling out that the original PDF might be bad because it was >> created by a competing paper that is NOTORIOUS for releasing bad >> work. The thing I don't understand is why does it work 99 times, >> then the 100th time messes up and every time following the 100th >> gives the same result. Something has changed, but it is not the >> original PDF. (Maybe some circumstance that "brought out" the bad >> post scripting on the 100th try?) >> >> Perplexed, >> The Sun Crew >> >> Rob Briggs wrote: >> >>> We employ a similar procees with Creator/Quark. >>> My first suspicion would be with the original "camera ready" PDF. >>> Did someone different send it? >>> Were the same settings/programs used to make it? >>> Remove the PDF form the Creator doc and re-export. >>> If it processes OK there is something wrong with that file. >>> If not, it is a graphic or font in Creator screwing things up. >>> >>> Rob Briggs >>> Production Supervisor >>> The Medina County Gazette >>> 330.721.4081 >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Crocker" >> >>> To: >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 12:00 PM >>> Subject: Strange PDF header? problem >>> >>> >>> >>>> We have a camera ready PDF ad that comes from a nearby car dealer. >>>> We have been running the same ad for weeks and it has always run >>>> correctly. >>>> >>>> Our camera ready PDF is placed on a Creator 7.0.6 document and >>>> then updated (cover up parts with boxes, retypeset things, etc. >>>> etc.) The new PDF is produced (Export EPS from Creator, Distiller >>>> 7.0 distills -> new PDF) and is then placed on an InDesign CS3 >>>> document, along with other ad PDFs and editorial content. A final >>>> PDF of the entire page is produced (Export EPS from InDesign, >>>> Distiller 7.0 distills ->final PDF) and that goes to rip, print... >>>> >>>> The ad we did last week was based on the original camera ready >>>> PDF, changes made, what appears to be a good PDF is distilled out >>>> of Creator, dropped in InDesign, final PDf produced. This week >>>> however, the PDF that comes from InDesign has "garbled", pixelly >>>> graphics in some instances. Some pictures on the ad are good, >>>> others look like white noise, pixelly filled outlines of those >>>> graphics. >>>> >>>> Our resident tech guru said this was a "PDF Header error". Said to >>>> take the Creator PDF, save as tiff and try again. Same result. >>>> When I place the Creator EPS (the one that was distilled), place >>>> that in InDesign and redistill, it works, graphics are right. >>>> >>>> Any suggestions on what went wrong, how we could avoid this? We >>>> could just start placing EPS instead of PDFs, but I hate to revamp >>>> our entire process because of one bad PDF. Plus EPSs take a little >>>> longer to place, process. >>>> >>>> Does this sound like a Creator, InDesign or Distiller issue? (I'm >>>> leaning toward the latter since the Creator EPS works). >>>> >>>> Any advice or suggestion would be greatly appreciated. >>>> >>>> Brad, >>>> The Hartwell Sun Composition Dept. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Creator mailing list >>>> Creator@wacondatrader.com >>>> http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator >>>> >>>> To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: >>>> http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ >>>> >>>> Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ >>>> >>>> Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: >>>> http://www.creatorsoftware.com >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Creator mailing list >>> Creator@wacondatrader.com >>> http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator >>> >>> To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: >>> http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ >>> >>> Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ >>> >>> Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: >>> http://www.creatorsoftware.com >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Creator mailing list >> Creator@wacondatrader.com >> http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator >> >> To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: >> http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ >> >> Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ >> >> Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: >> http://www.creatorsoftware.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > Creator mailing list > Creator@wacondatrader.com > http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator > > To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ > > Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ > > Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com > _______________________________________________ > Creator mailing list > Creator@wacondatrader.com > http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator > > To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ > > Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ > > Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com > > From M.Wilson at gatewaynewspapers.com Mon Jun 9 10:10:39 2008 From: M.Wilson at gatewaynewspapers.com (Wilson, Matthew) Date: Mon Jun 9 10:15:12 2008 Subject: Color profiles and EPS In-Reply-To: <9BE3C64D-4B9C-47F4-A559-A541A6EF315A@multiad.com> Message-ID: Having problems with assigning color profiles to Eps' when exporting. The option is grayed out. But this isn't the case all the time. Also I have a GATF created color profile Specific to our press I would like to load into creator. Normally we would be using our Asura program to assign the color profile but do to transition period. This won't be happening for 2 weeks Any help thanks Mathew Wilson From smills at multi-ad.com Mon Jun 9 10:23:25 2008 From: smills at multi-ad.com (Steve Mills) Date: Mon Jun 9 10:25:06 2008 Subject: Color profiles and EPS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Jun 9, 2008, at 10:10:39, Wilson, Matthew wrote: > Having problems with assigning color profiles to Eps' when > exporting. The > option is grayed out. But this isn't the case all the time. The first thing I'll ask is, is "Use color matching" turned on in every document that you try this with? It must be. _________________________________________________________ Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 Senior Software Architect MultiAd smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com From rgaskin at wdt.net Wed Jun 11 05:27:14 2008 From: rgaskin at wdt.net (Rick Gaskin) Date: Wed Jun 11 05:28:16 2008 Subject: unrecoverable error Message-ID: <484FA882.7030601@wdt.net> twice in the past two weeks...a cute lil, one line, creator dialog has appeared...telling me that creator has experienced an "unrecoverable" error and the program is "exiting" ...with an "ok" button (like i have a choice...gee just thought i would let you know that the program is quiting and all the work you've done for the last hour is going to be lost...are you ok with that?? ; )) anyways..whats up with that?? (re: error) (how much you wanna bet that the solution is try the beta ; ) speaking of which...see next thread -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message may be legally privileged and/or confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). No addressee should forward, print, copy, or otherwise reproduce this message in any manner that would allow it to be viewed by any individual not originally listed as a recipient. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized disclosure, dissemination, distribution, copying or the taking of any action in reliance on the information herein is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete this message. Thank you. From rgaskin at wdt.net Wed Jun 11 05:32:08 2008 From: rgaskin at wdt.net (Rick Gaskin) Date: Wed Jun 11 05:33:19 2008 Subject: beta usage Message-ID: <484FA9A8.1080903@wdt.net> what is the correct procedure for using the latest beta?? if i am not mistaken (which I often am) we what to: 1. download the beta 2. archive existing C8 3. install beta in the application folder 4. use 5. smile i bring this to everyones attention becuase, upon the release of the last beta, i went totally live with it...and if recall that probably wasn't the smartest idea R -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message may be legally privileged and/or confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). No addressee should forward, print, copy, or otherwise reproduce this message in any manner that would allow it to be viewed by any individual not originally listed as a recipient. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized disclosure, dissemination, distribution, copying or the taking of any action in reliance on the information herein is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete this message. Thank you. From smills at multi-ad.com Wed Jun 11 07:45:56 2008 From: smills at multi-ad.com (Steve Mills) Date: Wed Jun 11 07:46:40 2008 Subject: unrecoverable error In-Reply-To: <484FA882.7030601@wdt.net> References: <484FA882.7030601@wdt.net> Message-ID: <6F182C63-9480-4D57-A6B3-25060312C6A8@multiad.com> On Jun 11, 2008, at 05:27:14, Rick Gaskin wrote: > twice in the past two weeks...a cute lil, one line, creator dialog > has appeared...telling me that creator has experienced an > "unrecoverable" error and the program is "exiting" ...with an "ok" > button (like i have a choice...gee just thought i would let you know > that the program is quiting and all the work you've done for the > last hour is going to be lost...are you ok with that?? ; )) > > anyways..whats up with that?? (re: error) > > (how much you wanna bet that the solution is try the beta ; ) For any problem such as this, contact tech support. They will tell you that with 8.0.x, you can hold down the 'd' and 'b' keys when you launch Creator until the splash screen goes away, which will add the Debug menu to the menubar. Then you would choose the Log Exceptions menu item and use the program just as you did before and try to duplicate the error. After the error has appeared and you've clicked OK, you'd then look in ~/Library/Application Support/MultiAd/ and send the file exceptions.log back to tech support, which I would then look at to help figure out what went wrong. _________________________________________________________ Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 Senior Software Architect MultiAd smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com From rgaskin at wdt.net Wed Jun 11 07:48:48 2008 From: rgaskin at wdt.net (Rick Gaskin) Date: Wed Jun 11 07:50:16 2008 Subject: unrecoverable error In-Reply-To: <6F182C63-9480-4D57-A6B3-25060312C6A8@multiad.com> References: <484FA882.7030601@wdt.net> <6F182C63-9480-4D57-A6B3-25060312C6A8@multiad.com> Message-ID: <484FC9B0.9090102@wdt.net> you sure it isn't easier just to use the beta ; )) Steve Mills wrote: > On Jun 11, 2008, at 05:27:14, Rick Gaskin wrote: > >> twice in the past two weeks...a cute lil, one line, creator dialog >> has appeared...telling me that creator has experienced an >> "unrecoverable" error and the program is "exiting" ...with an "ok" >> button (like i have a choice...gee just thought i would let you know >> that the program is quiting and all the work you've done for the >> last hour is going to be lost...are you ok with that?? ; )) >> >> anyways..whats up with that?? (re: error) >> >> (how much you wanna bet that the solution is try the beta ; ) > > > For any problem such as this, contact tech support. They will tell you > that with 8.0.x, you can hold down the 'd' and 'b' keys when you > launch Creator until the splash screen goes away, which will add the > Debug menu to the menubar. Then you would choose the Log Exceptions > menu item and use the program just as you did before and try to > duplicate the error. After the error has appeared and you've clicked > OK, you'd then look in ~/Library/Application Support/MultiAd/ and send > the file exceptions.log back to tech support, which I would then look > at to help figure out what went wrong. > > _________________________________________________________ > Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 > Senior Software Architect MultiAd > smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Creator mailing list > Creator@wacondatrader.com > http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator > > To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ > > Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ > > Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com > > -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message may be legally privileged and/or confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). 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From smills at multi-ad.com Wed Jun 11 08:04:04 2008 From: smills at multi-ad.com (Steve Mills) Date: Wed Jun 11 08:05:01 2008 Subject: beta usage In-Reply-To: <484FA9A8.1080903@wdt.net> References: <484FA9A8.1080903@wdt.net> Message-ID: On Jun 11, 2008, at 05:32:08, Rick Gaskin wrote: > what is the correct procedure for using the latest beta?? > > if i am not mistaken (which I often am) we what to: > > 1. download the beta > > 2. archive existing C8 > > 3. install beta in the application folder > > 4. use > > 5. smile > > i bring this to everyones attention becuase, upon the release of the > last beta, i went totally live with it...and if recall that probably > wasn't the smartest idea Somewhere - and I have no idea where this would be these days - there is a statement that says something akin to "do NOT use betas in production." We here all say it and always have said it to customers, because it seems that so many of our customers ignore this warning and do it anyway, then they get in a panic when the beta is about to expire and they need to get an issue out. A beta is a pre-release build of an application, which contains bug fixes that have been verified by our internal testing department, but still might appear as non-working in other environments. The "other environments" parts is a huge deal, because there are hundreds of variables that come into play, and one company's testing department can never duplicate more than a handful of those conditions. People use betas to a) help out the software developer by ensuring that the new version of the application is stable and b) to verify that bugs they've reported have been fixed. And there's also c) to see what any new features are like before the rest of the world gets to see them. Here's the correct procedure: 1. Download beta. 2. Install beta. It will be installed in a beta folder and should not affect normal release installations. (Older versions of Creator would install the beta in the normal release folder, but the beta app would still be installed alongside the untouched release app, so the user could still choose which to use.) 3. Read the ReadMe that comes with the installer to learn about fixed bugs or known issues. Yes, some betas will have known issues. The ReadMe will warn you about them, so you can't whine if you click the "Don't Click Me or Your Computer Will Explode!" button and your computer explodes. 4. Use beta for non-critical tasks. Work on duplicates of production documents. 5. Promptly report any problems you find. 6. Smile because you're allowed to be a part of the beta testing so freely, because many companies don't do this, which often leads to incredibly buggy release versions. _________________________________________________________ Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 Senior Software Architect MultiAd smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com From smills at multi-ad.com Wed Jun 11 08:07:13 2008 From: smills at multi-ad.com (Steve Mills) Date: Wed Jun 11 08:09:37 2008 Subject: unrecoverable error In-Reply-To: <484FC9B0.9090102@wdt.net> References: <484FA882.7030601@wdt.net> <6F182C63-9480-4D57-A6B3-25060312C6A8@multiad.com> <484FC9B0.9090102@wdt.net> Message-ID: On Jun 11, 2008, at 07:48:48, Rick Gaskin wrote: > you sure it isn't easier just to use the beta ; )) :D But if nobody has done this field debugging for us, then we probably don't know about the problem, so we probably haven't made any changes that would fix it. _________________________________________________________ Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 Senior Software Architect MultiAd smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com From dhfoy1 at gmail.com Wed Jun 11 08:37:11 2008 From: dhfoy1 at gmail.com (Don Foy) Date: Wed Jun 11 08:38:26 2008 Subject: unrecoverable error In-Reply-To: <6F182C63-9480-4D57-A6B3-25060312C6A8@multiad.com> References: <484FA882.7030601@wdt.net> <6F182C63-9480-4D57-A6B3-25060312C6A8@multiad.com> Message-ID: Steve. Is there a way to do this with v. 7? We're having a similar issue there, opening large documents across network. Don On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 7:45 AM, Steve Mills wrote: > > > For any problem such as this, contact tech support. They will tell you that > with 8.0.x, you can hold down the 'd' and 'b' keys when you launch Creator > until the splash screen goes away, which will add the Debug menu to the > menubar. Then you would choose the Log Exceptions menu item and use the > program just as you did before and try to duplicate the error. After the > error has appeared and you've clicked OK, you'd then look in > ~/Library/Application Support/MultiAd/ and send the file exceptions.log back > to tech support, which I would then look at to help figure out what went > wrong. > -- Don Foy Herald-Citizen Cookeville, Tenn. From rgaskin at wdt.net Wed Jun 11 08:51:46 2008 From: rgaskin at wdt.net (Rick Gaskin) Date: Wed Jun 11 08:52:32 2008 Subject: unrecoverable error In-Reply-To: <6F182C63-9480-4D57-A6B3-25060312C6A8@multiad.com> References: <484FA882.7030601@wdt.net> <6F182C63-9480-4D57-A6B3-25060312C6A8@multiad.com> Message-ID: <484FD872.3070101@wdt.net> i like the bug icon in the menu bar Steve Mills wrote: > On Jun 11, 2008, at 05:27:14, Rick Gaskin wrote: > >> twice in the past two weeks...a cute lil, one line, creator dialog >> has appeared...telling me that creator has experienced an >> "unrecoverable" error and the program is "exiting" ...with an "ok" >> button (like i have a choice...gee just thought i would let you know >> that the program is quiting and all the work you've done for the >> last hour is going to be lost...are you ok with that?? ; )) >> >> anyways..whats up with that?? (re: error) >> >> (how much you wanna bet that the solution is try the beta ; ) > > > For any problem such as this, contact tech support. They will tell you > that with 8.0.x, you can hold down the 'd' and 'b' keys when you > launch Creator until the splash screen goes away, which will add the > Debug menu to the menubar. Then you would choose the Log Exceptions > menu item and use the program just as you did before and try to > duplicate the error. After the error has appeared and you've clicked > OK, you'd then look in ~/Library/Application Support/MultiAd/ and send > the file exceptions.log back to tech support, which I would then look > at to help figure out what went wrong. > > _________________________________________________________ > Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 > Senior Software Architect MultiAd > smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Creator mailing list > Creator@wacondatrader.com > http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator > > To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ > > Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ > > Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com > > -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message may be legally privileged and/or confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). No addressee should forward, print, copy, or otherwise reproduce this message in any manner that would allow it to be viewed by any individual not originally listed as a recipient. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized disclosure, dissemination, distribution, copying or the taking of any action in reliance on the information herein is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete this message. Thank you. From smills at multi-ad.com Wed Jun 11 08:53:32 2008 From: smills at multi-ad.com (Steve Mills) Date: Wed Jun 11 08:55:15 2008 Subject: unrecoverable error In-Reply-To: References: <484FA882.7030601@wdt.net> <6F182C63-9480-4D57-A6B3-25060312C6A8@multiad.com> Message-ID: On Jun 11, 2008, at 08:37:11, Don Foy wrote: > Steve. Is there a way to do this with v. 7? We're having a similar > issue > there, opening large documents across network. No. This feature wasn't added until later. _________________________________________________________ Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 Senior Software Architect MultiAd smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com From joyce at slaytonsolutions.biz Wed Jun 11 11:28:53 2008 From: joyce at slaytonsolutions.biz (joyce simpson) Date: Wed Jun 11 11:32:07 2008 Subject: File is of the wrong type... Message-ID: <21B1EF7A-C7FD-4AAD-A75D-6FA564194A34@slaytonsolutions.biz> Creator 8.0.2 file that I worked on yesterday - Hy-Vee ad. Try to open today to make final corrections, errors -- The file is of the wrong type. Only option is to click OK. Have tried to launch Creator and go to File > Open > same error. Tried to open on two other machines, same error. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Joyce Simpson From smills at multi-ad.com Wed Jun 11 11:42:46 2008 From: smills at multi-ad.com (Steve Mills) Date: Wed Jun 11 11:43:50 2008 Subject: File is of the wrong type... In-Reply-To: <21B1EF7A-C7FD-4AAD-A75D-6FA564194A34@slaytonsolutions.biz> References: <21B1EF7A-C7FD-4AAD-A75D-6FA564194A34@slaytonsolutions.biz> Message-ID: <1B8BBB87-604A-4C6B-A371-881B3DD2FF1C@multiad.com> On Jun 11, 2008, at 11:28:53, joyce simpson wrote: > Creator 8.0.2 file that I worked on yesterday - Hy-Vee ad. Try to > open today to make final corrections, errors -- The file is of the > wrong type. Only option is to click OK. Have tried to launch Creator > and go to File > Open > same error. Tried to open on two other > machines, same error. This usually indicates that the file has become corrupt (Creator can't read the parts that it expects and decides the file is the "wrong type"), most likely because of a disk or network problem. What OS is running the volume where the file is stored? I have some time that I could look at the file to see if it's a small problem or a large bad-disk problem. Please send just the .crtr document to me, not to the list. _________________________________________________________ Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 Senior Software Architect MultiAd smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com From orcrush at mac.com Mon Jun 16 01:47:26 2008 From: orcrush at mac.com (JJ) Date: Mon Jun 16 01:49:25 2008 Subject: Borders 'not right file type' with 7.0.6 on Leopard? Message-ID: <2BDDCD9B-6194-48E1-ACC4-D1979A9104F7@mac.com> I recently moved to a new Mac (G5 dual 2GHz) running Loepard (10.5.3). If I try to open a few creator docs created with previous versions of creator (currently using 7.0.6) I get errors that it cannot find coupon border files. When I navigate to the border files, they are all greyed out and un=selectable. Clicking "allow me to select an alternate file" does not work. I've repaired permissions and reinstalled Creator, no luck. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated...I'm on deadline! James Jepsen Designer/Consultant orcrush at mac dot com http://homepage.mac.com/orcrush/personal From taffolder at fwn.fortwayne.com Mon Jun 16 11:49:01 2008 From: taffolder at fwn.fortwayne.com (Tami Affolder) Date: Mon Jun 16 11:49:59 2008 Subject: Color Issues Message-ID: We have been having some color issues with Creator. I?m just going to copy what a designer wrote to me. > We had a color issue with the Stine & Associates ad for the Guide to NE Ind > RE. The background green color got really dark and didn't match the logo like > the customer wanted. > > The ad was designed in Creator and saved as an eps. I opened the Creator file > and the background is 60C 0M 80Y 0K to match the green in the customer's logo. > When I opened the eps in Photoshop (with color management off), the background > color had changed to 37C 0M 56Y 23K, but the logo color was still the same. > > I spoke with Imaging about the ad. They said there was a similar problem with > a Home Depot ad. It came out brown instead of orange. > > An issue with Creator eps's? I have checked the preferences and have found no visible problem. Settings don?t indicate any problem. Any Ideas? Thanks Tamara Affolder | Ad Production Supervisor __________________________________ Fort Wayne Newspapers From joyce at slaytonsolutions.biz Tue Jun 17 10:22:24 2008 From: joyce at slaytonsolutions.biz (joyce simpson) Date: Tue Jun 17 10:24:22 2008 Subject: Fit picture to box.... Message-ID: <478F5594-E62E-4D78-B0C5-F421FBF5E8EC@slaytonsolutions.biz> Silly question that I'm sure I'm just blind about today -- Place image in a box - are there shortcut keys to fit the picture to the box proportionally and disproportionally? Thanks in advance. Joyce Simpson From barbmail at optonline.net Tue Jun 17 10:29:21 2008 From: barbmail at optonline.net (barb) Date: Tue Jun 17 10:31:39 2008 Subject: Color Issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6D5D9B67-59DD-42B2-8EFF-898E3469BAAA@optonline.net> Are you using any soft shadows in the ad? I'n not sure if it is just using a soft shadow or duplicating an item with a soft shadow but there is some issue with using soft shadows and the colors changing. Barb On Jun 16, 2008, at 12:49 PM, Tami Affolder wrote: > We have been having some color issues with Creator. I?m just going > to copy > what a designer wrote to me. > >> We had a color issue with the Stine & Associates ad for the Guide >> to NE Ind >> RE. The background green color got really dark and didn't match >> the logo like >> the customer wanted. >> >> The ad was designed in Creator and saved as an eps. I opened the >> Creator file >> and the background is 60C 0M 80Y 0K to match the green in the >> customer's logo. >> When I opened the eps in Photoshop (with color management off), the >> background >> color had changed to 37C 0M 56Y 23K, but the logo color was still >> the same. >> >> I spoke with Imaging about the ad. They said there was a similar >> problem with >> a Home Depot ad. It came out brown instead of orange. >> >> An issue with Creator eps's? > > > I have checked the preferences and have found no visible problem. > Settings > don?t indicate any problem. Any Ideas? > > Thanks > > Tamara Affolder | Ad Production Supervisor > __________________________________ > Fort Wayne Newspapers > > _______________________________________________ > Creator mailing list > Creator@wacondatrader.com > http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator > > To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ > > Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ > > Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com From Peter.Ashmore at nne.co.uk Tue Jun 17 10:29:04 2008 From: Peter.Ashmore at nne.co.uk (Peter Ashmore) Date: Tue Jun 17 10:37:42 2008 Subject: Fit picture to box.... Message-ID: <5ADC73352B9736448F064D7DA7B042392F09AD@spark> Joyce Select the Containment tool, then hold down one of the following keys while dragging a graphic over the picture box: N - No scaling (fits at current size) S - Scale to fit and fill (fits to shape and ratio of picture box) W - Fit within container (correct ratio with whole graphic visible) C - Fit inside container (correct ratio with only part graphic visible) Hope this helps Pete -----Original Message----- From: joyce simpson [mailto:joyce@slaytonsolutions.biz] Sent: 17 June 2008 16:22 To: Creator Subject: Fit picture to box.... Silly question that I'm sure I'm just blind about today -- Place image in a box - are there shortcut keys to fit the picture to the box proportionally and disproportionally? Thanks in advance. Joyce Simpson _______________________________________________ Creator mailing list Creator@wacondatrader.com http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: http://www.creatorsoftware.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- This email has been scanned for viruses and other threats using Newsquest's Ironport email filters This e-mail, including any attachment, is private and confidential. It should not be read, copied, disclosed or otherwise used by any person other than the intended recipient(s). If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately. Newsquest reserves the right to monitor e-mails in accordance with the Telecommunications (Lawful Business Practice) (Interception of Communications) Regulations 2000. Newsquest Media Group Limited. Registered in England, number 3105111 . Registered office: 58 Church Street, Weybridge, Surrey KT13 8DP -------------------------------------------------------------------- From smills at multi-ad.com Tue Jun 17 10:36:26 2008 From: smills at multi-ad.com (Steve Mills) Date: Tue Jun 17 10:42:38 2008 Subject: Fit picture to box.... In-Reply-To: <478F5594-E62E-4D78-B0C5-F421FBF5E8EC@slaytonsolutions.biz> References: <478F5594-E62E-4D78-B0C5-F421FBF5E8EC@slaytonsolutions.biz> Message-ID: On Jun 17, 2008, at 10:22:24, joyce simpson wrote: > Silly question that I'm sure I'm just blind about today -- > > Place image in a box - are there shortcut keys to fit the picture to > the box proportionally and disproportionally? If the graphic is already contained in the box? No. But you can hold down the various scaling keys when you drag an element into a container with the containment tool. Double-click the containment tool to see what those keys are. And in 8.0 and later, you can assign those scaling options on any container by using the Container panel in the Element Info dialog. From then on, elements placed or dropped into that container will scale according to its setting, but you can still override it with the keys. _________________________________________________________ Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 Senior Software Architect MultiAd smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com From ford at commercialappeal.com Tue Jun 17 10:44:59 2008 From: ford at commercialappeal.com (chris ford) Date: Tue Jun 17 10:50:39 2008 Subject: Compatibility issues Message-ID: Anyone know of any compatibility issues with Creator Pro 7.0.5 and any of the programs in CS3? We?re upgrading our Intel (and a few PowerPC) iMacs running OSX 10.4.11 from CS2 Premium to CS3 Premium. I?m considering bumping up Creator to version 8, and would have a year ago, but could never get softshadows to work for me. Should I go ahead and update Creator too? Is soft shadows still an issue or is it working correctly now? Our adtracking system is AdSuite. Thanks for any suggestions. Chris ---------------------- Chris Ford Assistant Creative Services Manager The Commercial Appeal 495 Union Ave. Memphis, TN 38103 901-529-2287 ford@commercialappeal.com From joyce at slaytonsolutions.biz Tue Jun 17 10:48:14 2008 From: joyce at slaytonsolutions.biz (joyce simpson) Date: Tue Jun 17 10:54:10 2008 Subject: Fit picture to box.... In-Reply-To: <5ADC73352B9736448F064D7DA7B042392F09AD@spark> References: <5ADC73352B9736448F064D7DA7B042392F09AD@spark> Message-ID: Thanks Pete - apparently my brain is not quit functioning today. joyce On Jun 17, 2008, at 10:29 AM, Peter Ashmore wrote: > Joyce > > Select the Containment tool, then hold down one of the following > keys while > dragging a graphic over the picture box: > > N - No scaling (fits at current size) > S - Scale to fit and fill (fits to shape and ratio of picture box) > W - Fit within container (correct ratio with whole graphic visible) > C - Fit inside container (correct ratio with only part graphic > visible) > > Hope this helps > > Pete > > > -----Original Message----- > From: joyce simpson [mailto:joyce@slaytonsolutions.biz] > Sent: 17 June 2008 16:22 > To: Creator > Subject: Fit picture to box.... > > > Silly question that I'm sure I'm just blind about today -- > > Place image in a box - are there shortcut keys to fit the picture to > the box proportionally and disproportionally? > > Thanks in advance. > > Joyce Simpson > _______________________________________________ > Creator mailing list > Creator@wacondatrader.com > http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator > > To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ > > Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ > > Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > This email has been scanned for viruses and other threats > using Newsquest's Ironport email filters > > This e-mail, including any attachment, is private and > confidential. > It should not be read, copied, disclosed or otherwise used by > any person other than the intended recipient(s). > If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the > sender immediately. > Newsquest reserves the right to monitor e-mails in > accordance with the Telecommunications (Lawful Business > Practice) > (Interception of Communications) Regulations 2000. > > Newsquest Media Group Limited. > Registered in England, number 3105111 . Registered office: > 58 Church Street, Weybridge, Surrey KT13 8DP > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Creator mailing list > Creator@wacondatrader.com > http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator > > To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ > > Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ > > Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com From smills at multi-ad.com Tue Jun 17 11:16:34 2008 From: smills at multi-ad.com (Steve Mills) Date: Tue Jun 17 11:18:02 2008 Subject: Compatibility issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <91256AE6-FED6-451B-81B9-C3223F8ABE8A@multiad.com> On Jun 17, 2008, at 10:44:59, chris ford wrote: > Anyone know of any compatibility issues with Creator Pro 7.0.5 and > any of > the programs in CS3? We?re upgrading our Intel (and a few PowerPC) > iMacs > running OSX 10.4.11 from CS2 Premium to CS3 Premium. Not that I'm aware of. > I?m considering bumping up Creator to version 8, and would have a > year ago, > but could never get softshadows to work for me. Should I go ahead > and update > Creator too? Is soft shadows still an issue or is it working > correctly now? Let's look at the pros and cons of upgrading to 8: Pros: Lots of new features that increase productivity. Runs natively on Intel and PPC. Lots of bug fixes and improvements. Cons: Soft shadows only "work" if background is white. They also work fine in other cases if you don't need colors to remain at exact values. _________________________________________________________ Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 Senior Software Architect MultiAd smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com From ford at commercialappeal.com Wed Jun 18 10:00:59 2008 From: ford at commercialappeal.com (chris ford) Date: Wed Jun 18 10:02:37 2008 Subject: Compatibility issues In-Reply-To: <91256AE6-FED6-451B-81B9-C3223F8ABE8A@multiad.com> Message-ID: Thanks Steve. We're working with an outsourcing vendor, and I need to check on the ramifications of them upgrading at the same time. Going to Creator8 would necessitate us upgrading our AdSuite to version 7. It's always a domino effect, ya know? Thanks again for your help, Chris ---------------------- Chris Ford Assistant Creative Services Manager The Commercial Appeal 495 Union Ave. Memphis, TN 38103 901-529-2287 ford@commercialappeal.com > From: Steve Mills > Reply-To: > Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:16:34 -0500 > To: > Subject: Re: Compatibility issues > > On Jun 17, 2008, at 10:44:59, chris ford wrote: > >> Anyone know of any compatibility issues with Creator Pro 7.0.5 and >> any of >> the programs in CS3? We?re upgrading our Intel (and a few PowerPC) >> iMacs >> running OSX 10.4.11 from CS2 Premium to CS3 Premium. > > Not that I'm aware of. > >> I?m considering bumping up Creator to version 8, and would have a >> year ago, >> but could never get softshadows to work for me. Should I go ahead >> and update >> Creator too? Is soft shadows still an issue or is it working >> correctly now? > > Let's look at the pros and cons of upgrading to 8: > > Pros: > Lots of new features that increase productivity. > Runs natively on Intel and PPC. > Lots of bug fixes and improvements. > > Cons: > Soft shadows only "work" if background is white. They also work fine > in other cases if you don't need colors to remain at exact values. > > _________________________________________________________ > Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 > Senior Software Architect MultiAd > smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Creator mailing list > Creator@wacondatrader.com > http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator > > To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ > > Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ > > Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com > From dfrank at freelancestar.com Wed Jun 18 10:32:51 2008 From: dfrank at freelancestar.com (Deanne Frank) Date: Wed Jun 18 10:34:38 2008 Subject: Compatibility issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1FD2AF35-1184-4661-A908-F525ECB877FE@freelancestar.com> Chris, I was following your email on the Creator forum about possibly upgrading to v.8. I also had been thinking about that. I haven't done it yet because from what I understand from our Agfa service rep we would need to change to a hires workflow on the server. We currently have an OPI workflow in place. From what I understand we would have to change everybody over to a hires workflow. There isn't a way for us to test it first, so I have been hesitant. I have installed AdSuite 7 on a few machines. It seems to run just a little bit slower than our previous version but not enough to make a difference. I like some of the changes that they have made in AdSuite7. I like the fact that Archive/Purge can now be done in OS X. I like the fact that I can install it on leopard. I like the search feature now. It shows tabs across the top. Let me know if you decide to do the upgrade. I will be curious to see how it goes for you. Thanks! Deanne Frank Help Desk Supervisor The Free Lance-Star Companies 616 Amelia Street Fredericksburg, VA 22401 540.368.5025 dfrank@freelancestar.com On Jun 18, 2008, at 11:00 AM, chris ford wrote: > Thanks Steve. We're working with an outsourcing vendor, and I need > to check > on the ramifications of them upgrading at the same time. > > Going to Creator8 would necessitate us upgrading our AdSuite to > version 7. > It's always a domino effect, ya know? > > Thanks again for your help, > > > > Chris > > ---------------------- > Chris Ford > Assistant Creative Services Manager > The Commercial Appeal > 495 Union Ave. > Memphis, TN 38103 > 901-529-2287 > ford@commercialappeal.com > > > >> From: Steve Mills >> Reply-To: >> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:16:34 -0500 >> To: >> Subject: Re: Compatibility issues >> >> On Jun 17, 2008, at 10:44:59, chris ford wrote: >> >>> Anyone know of any compatibility issues with Creator Pro 7.0.5 and >>> any of >>> the programs in CS3? We?re upgrading our Intel (and a few PowerPC) >>> iMacs >>> running OSX 10.4.11 from CS2 Premium to CS3 Premium. >> >> Not that I'm aware of. >> >>> I?m considering bumping up Creator to version 8, and would have a >>> year ago, >>> but could never get softshadows to work for me. Should I go ahead >>> and update >>> Creator too? Is soft shadows still an issue or is it working >>> correctly now? >> >> Let's look at the pros and cons of upgrading to 8: >> >> Pros: >> Lots of new features that increase productivity. >> Runs natively on Intel and PPC. >> Lots of bug fixes and improvements. >> >> Cons: >> Soft shadows only "work" if background is white. They also work fine >> in other cases if you don't need colors to remain at exact values. >> >> _________________________________________________________ >> Steve Mills Me: 952-401-6255 >> Senior Software Architect MultiAd >> smills@multiad.com www.multi-ad.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Creator mailing list >> Creator@wacondatrader.com >> http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator >> >> To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: >> http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ >> >> Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ >> >> Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: >> http://www.creatorsoftware.com >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Creator mailing list > Creator@wacondatrader.com > http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator > > To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ > > Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ > > Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com This message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure under law. If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that the dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited, and that this message should be deleted from your system. The Free Lance-Star Publishing Company accepts no liability for the content of this message, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided. If you receive this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender and delete the document from your computer. From della63 at excite.com Thu Jun 19 17:26:14 2008 From: della63 at excite.com (Della Mallette) Date: Thu Jun 19 17:27:03 2008 Subject: Doc/pasteboard colors Message-ID: <20080619222614.BBC8B2F598@xprdmxin.myway.com> This is likely an easy fix, but it's been bothering me for so long – more so now that my eyes are weakening as I age! Is there any way to change the document area color or the pasteboard color so tthat it is easier to see the edge of the document area? I often don't want the auto border but I do need to see exactly where the edge of my document is. Thanks, Della. _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! From barbmail at optonline.net Thu Jun 19 17:49:03 2008 From: barbmail at optonline.net (barb) Date: Thu Jun 19 17:49:51 2008 Subject: Doc/pasteboard colors In-Reply-To: <20080619222614.BBC8B2F598@xprdmxin.myway.com> References: <20080619222614.BBC8B2F598@xprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <14EAA0AC-1ED4-418D-8A40-58FD1ABB4045@optonline.net> Go to Preferences then choose the Workspace Colors pane. Barb On Jun 19, 2008, at 6:26 PM, Della Mallette wrote: > > This is likely an easy fix, but it's been bothering me for so long ? > more so now that my eyes are weakening as I age! Is there any way to > change the document area color or the pasteboard color so tthat it > is easier to see the edge of the document area? I often don't want > the auto border but I do need to see exactly where the edge of my > document is. Thanks, Della. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > The most personalized portal on the Web! > > > _______________________________________________ > Creator mailing list > Creator@wacondatrader.com > http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator > > To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ > > Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ > > Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com From morsugar at bestweb.net Mon Jun 23 14:03:33 2008 From: morsugar at bestweb.net (More Sugar) Date: Mon Jun 23 14:04:33 2008 Subject: Gradients in PDFs In-Reply-To: <14EAA0AC-1ED4-418D-8A40-58FD1ABB4045@optonline.net> References: <20080619222614.BBC8B2F598@xprdmxin.myway.com> <14EAA0AC-1ED4-418D-8A40-58FD1ABB4045@optonline.net> Message-ID: <485FF385.2090908@bestweb.net> Hi all! Having a prob w/ gradients sometimes not displaying correctly in PDFs. Happens when the ad (Creator file) is exported as an EPS, then imported into a layout (also Creator file) that is then printed to a PDF, or when the Creator ad is printed directly to a PDF. Creator 7.0.5 Mac OSX 10.3.9 Adobe Acrobat 7.0 Cheers! -- Regards, Karen Collins More Sugar Entertainment www.moresugar.com myspace.com/moresugarpublication 845-526-2190 From lbrown at multi-ad.com Mon Jun 23 14:40:18 2008 From: lbrown at multi-ad.com (Lindsey Pavia) Date: Mon Jun 23 14:39:27 2008 Subject: please remove my e-mail address Message-ID: <485FFC22.2080108@multiad.com> Thank you! lpavia@multiad.com lbrown@multiad.com -- Lindsey Pavia, Trainer MultiAd? Revolution ------------------------ Revolution Help Desk 309-690-5288 1-800-245-9278 ext. 5288 revolutionhelp@multiad.com MultiAd?. One Company. Many Solutions. From joe at wacondatrader.com Mon Jun 23 14:58:00 2008 From: joe at wacondatrader.com (Joe Sporleder) Date: Mon Jun 23 14:59:39 2008 Subject: please remove my e-mail address In-Reply-To: <485FFC22.2080108@multiad.com> References: <485FFC22.2080108@multiad.com> Message-ID: You do know this is a self-help group, don't you? :-D Joe On Jun 23, 2008, at 2:40 PM, Lindsey Pavia wrote: > Thank you! > > lpavia@multiad.com > lbrown@multiad.com > > -- > Lindsey Pavia, Trainer > MultiAd? Revolution > ------------------------ > Revolution Help Desk > 309-690-5288 > 1-800-245-9278 ext. 5288 > revolutionhelp@multiad.com > > MultiAd?. One Company. Many Solutions. From lbrown at multi-ad.com Mon Jun 23 15:04:15 2008 From: lbrown at multi-ad.com (Lindsey Pavia) Date: Mon Jun 23 15:05:20 2008 Subject: please remove my e-mail address In-Reply-To: References: <485FFC22.2080108@multiad.com> Message-ID: <486001BF.1030407@multiad.com> Yeah, I clicked the wrong link... oopsy! :) Lindsey Pavia, Trainer MultiAd? Revolution ------------------------ Revolution Help Desk 309-690-5288 1-800-245-9278 ext. 5288 revolutionhelp@multiad.com MultiAd?. One Company. Many Solutions. Joe Sporleder wrote: > You do know this is a self-help group, don't you? :-D > > Joe > > On Jun 23, 2008, at 2:40 PM, Lindsey Pavia wrote: > >> Thank you! >> >> lpavia@multiad.com >> lbrown@multiad.com >> >> -- >> Lindsey Pavia, Trainer >> MultiAd? Revolution >> ------------------------ >> Revolution Help Desk >> 309-690-5288 >> 1-800-245-9278 ext. 5288 >> revolutionhelp@multiad.com >> >> MultiAd?. One Company. Many Solutions. > > _______________________________________________ > Creator mailing list > Creator@wacondatrader.com > http://wacondatrader.com/mailman/listinfo/creator > > To officially report a bug in Creator, go here: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com/support/contact_us/report_a_problem/ > > Searchable Archive: http://feick.webhop.net/lists/html/creatorlist/ > > Multi-Ad's Creator website can be found at: > http://www.creatorsoftware.com > From peterpica at comcast.net Mon Jun 23 15:17:10 2008 From: peterpica at comcast.net (Peter Stremic) Date: Mon Jun 23 15:21:54 2008 Subject: please remove my e-mail address In-Reply-To: <486001BF.1030407@multiad.com> References: <485FFC22.2080108@multiad.com> <486001BF.1030407@multiad.com> Message-ID: <60C4457F-3891-4C93-B0F1-4EAC805A8DBB@comcast.net> That sounds like a George Carlin-ism! (Bless his soul) On Jun 23, 2008, at 4:04 PM, Lindsey Pavia wrote: > oopsy! From joe at wacondatrader.com Mon Jun 23 15:29:46 2008 From: joe at wacondatrader.com (Joe Sporleder) Date: Mon Jun 23 15:33:32 2008 Subject: please remove my e-mail address In-Reply-To: <60C4457F-3891-4C93-B0F1-4EAC805A8DBB@comcast.net> References: <485FFC22.2080108@multiad.com> <486001BF.1030407@multiad.com> <60C4457F-3891-4C93-B0F1-4EAC805A8DBB@comcast.net> Message-ID: I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman, "Where's the self- help section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose. - George Carlin On Jun 23, 2008, at 3:17 PM, Peter Stremic wrote: > That sounds like a George Carlin-ism! > > (Bless his soul) > On Jun 23, 2008, at 4:04 PM, Lindsey Pavia wrote: > >> oopsy! From joe at wacondatrader.com Tue Jun 24 13:30:51 2008 From: joe at wacondatrader.com (Joe Sporleder) Date: Tue Jun 24 13:31:29 2008 Subject: Using Creator for Web and Animation? Message-ID: I know we've had a similar conversation before about using Creator for web based ads, but was wondering what you all might use to create Flash style animations? Is buying a full copy of Adobe Flash Pro my best option, or are their other programs out there I should consider? I realize I could use Creator to make my frames for an animated GIF, or a JPEG if I just want a static ad. However, if I want a nice sharp picture of a house or a car for an ad with animation, GIF's limited color palette doesn't cut it. Someone told me that Multi-Ad had a program that can export to Shockwave files for putting Flash animations on the web. Are they mistaken? I haven't seen anything from Multi-Ad capable of Flash style animation. Joe From morsugar at bestweb.net Wed Jun 25 14:51:57 2008 From: morsugar at bestweb.net (More Sugar) Date: Wed Jun 25 14:53:00 2008 Subject: Gradients in PDFs In-Reply-To: <485FF385.2090908@bestweb.net> References: <20080619222614.BBC8B2F598@xprdmxin.myway.com> <14EAA0AC-1ED4-418D-8A40-58FD1ABB4045@optonline.net> <485FF385.2090908@bestweb.net> Message-ID: <4862A1DD.9070804@bestweb.net> Okay; I've uploaded some sample images to help explain. http://www.moresugar.com/CreatorList/ This is what the file SHOULD look like -- PV disco FP 082508.jpg. PV disco FP exp pdf.jpg was EXPORTED as a PDF. PV disco FP pdf.jpg was PRINTED to a PDF. Any ideas on why this is happening, or, more importantly, how to fix? Creator 7.0.5 Mac OSX 10.3.9 Adobe Acrobat 7.0 Cheers! -- Regards, Karen Collins More Sugar Entertainment www.moresugar.com myspace.com/moresugarpublication 845-526-2190 From smills at multi-ad.com Wed Jun 25 15:09:37 2008 From: smills at multi-ad.com (Steve Mills) Date: Wed Jun 25 15:10:27 2008 Subject: Gradients in PDFs In-Reply-To: <4862A1DD.9070804@bestweb.net> References: <20080619222614.BBC8B2F598@xprdmxin.myway.com> <14EAA0AC-1ED4-418D-8A40-58FD1ABB4045@optonline.net> <485FF385.2090908@bestweb.net> <4862A1DD.9070804@bestweb.net> Message-ID: <6455D5A2-C488-4057-88C7-8BC11AC03526@multiad.com> On Jun 25, 2008, at 14:51:57, More Sugar wrote: > Okay; I've uploaded some sample images to help explain. > http://www.moresugar.com/CreatorList/ > > This is what the file SHOULD look like -- PV disco FP 082508.jpg. > > PV disco FP exp pdf.jpg was EXPORTED as a PDF. > > PV disco FP pdf.jpg was PRINTED to a PDF. > > Any ideas on why this is happening, or, more importantly, how to fix? > > Cr