Strange PDF header? problem

Wed Jun 4 14:34:26 CDT 2008

I just preflighted it in InDesign and Acrobat, but no real red flags 
popped up. I did notice in Acrobat that it had PDF/x label missing or 
incorrect, but I've never let that one stop me from sending a page. I 
think that pops up when we distill a page whose file name changes from 
the original document to what we label it for sorting purposes, but I 
could be completely wrong about what it means.

Zindler, Lynn wrote:
> Do y'all use a program to preflight your pdfs? We use a program called Speedflow and it can be setup to change color, photo resolution etc. to what it needs to be for newsprint. When we get a pdf from an outside client we run it thru Speedflow and then put it into Creator. We are on a pc platform.
> -Just a few thoughts
> Lynn Zindler
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: creator-bounces at wacondatrader.com [mailto:creator-bounces at wacondatrader.com] On Behalf Of Peter Stremic
> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 2:43 PM
> To: creator at wacondatrader.com
> Subject: Re: Strange PDF header? problem
>
> Want to send problem PDF?
>
> I'd like to look at it.
>
> peterpica at comcast.net
>
>
> On Jun 4, 2008, at 2:24 PM, Brad Crocker wrote:
>
>   
>> I'm not ruling out that the original PDF might be bad because it was
>> created by a competing paper that is NOTORIOUS for releasing bad
>> work. The thing I don't understand is why does it work 99 times,
>> then the 100th time messes up and every time following the 100th
>> gives the same result. Something has changed, but it is not the
>> original PDF. (Maybe some circumstance that "brought out" the bad
>> post scripting on the 100th try?)
>>
>> Perplexed,
>> The Sun Crew
>>
>> Rob Briggs wrote:
>>     
>>> We employ a similar procees with Creator/Quark.
>>> My first suspicion would be with the original "camera ready" PDF.
>>> Did someone different send it?
>>> Were the same settings/programs used to make it?
>>> Remove the PDF form the Creator doc and re-export.
>>> If it processes OK there is something wrong with that file.
>>> If not, it is a graphic or font in Creator screwing things up.
>>>
>>> Rob Briggs
>>> Production Supervisor
>>> The Medina County Gazette
>>> 330.721.4081
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Crocker" <brad-hsunads at hartcom.net
>>>       
>>> To: <creator at wacondatrader.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 12:00 PM
>>> Subject: Strange PDF header? problem
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> We have a camera ready PDF ad that comes from a nearby car dealer.
>>>> We have been running the same ad for weeks and it has always run
>>>> correctly.
>>>>
>>>> Our camera ready PDF is placed on a Creator 7.0.6 document and
>>>> then updated (cover up parts with boxes, retypeset things, etc.
>>>> etc.) The new PDF is produced (Export EPS from Creator, Distiller
>>>> 7.0 distills -> new PDF) and is then placed on an InDesign CS3
>>>> document, along with other ad PDFs and editorial content. A final
>>>> PDF of the entire page is produced (Export EPS from InDesign,
>>>> Distiller 7.0 distills ->final PDF) and that goes to rip, print...
>>>>
>>>> The ad we did last week was based on the original camera ready
>>>> PDF, changes made, what appears to be a good PDF is distilled out
>>>> of Creator, dropped in InDesign, final PDf produced. This week
>>>> however, the PDF that comes from InDesign has "garbled", pixelly
>>>> graphics in some instances. Some pictures on the ad are good,
>>>> others look like white noise, pixelly filled outlines of those
>>>> graphics.
>>>>
>>>> Our resident tech guru said this was a "PDF Header error". Said to
>>>> take the Creator PDF, save as tiff and try again. Same result.
>>>> When I place the Creator EPS (the one that was distilled), place
>>>> that in InDesign and redistill, it works, graphics are right.
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions on what went wrong, how we could avoid this? We
>>>> could just start placing EPS instead of PDFs, but I hate to revamp
>>>> our entire process because of one bad PDF. Plus EPSs take a little
>>>> longer to place, process.
>>>>
>>>> Does this sound like a Creator, InDesign or Distiller issue? (I'm
>>>> leaning toward the latter since the Creator EPS works).
>>>>
>>>> Any advice or suggestion would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Brad,
>>>> The Hartwell Sun Composition Dept.
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